Towing specifics on F150 2.7L
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Towing specifics on F150 2.7L
Please excuse me if this is a simple question or has already been answered. I searched and could not find what I am trying to figure out. I'm going to purchase a F150 Super Crew 4x4 with the 2.7L Ecoboost. I'm trying to determine what components differ when you add the tow package. I know that the brochure states you get a heavier duty front sway bar and an auxiliary transmission cooler plus the backup assist option. When I looked at the trucks on the lot all the 2.7L models had a trans cooler mounted in front of the radiator whether or not they had the tow package. So the brochure and website is a little misleading if the 2.7L all come with them. Unless there is another somewhere else? I checked the Ford parts diagrams and I can only find one transmission cooler. So basically my question is what are you getting extra when you select the tow option package. I could probably live without the backup assist feature. I'm more curious what mechanical items are changed when you jump to the tow package with the 2.7L.
I also compared the Ford build sheets for two trucks on the lot; one with tow package and one without. The only difference I could tell was the one with tow package called out as heavy duty tow and the other one showed medium duty tow. Hopefully others have had this question. Thanks in advance. Hoping soon to be a proud owner.
I also compared the Ford build sheets for two trucks on the lot; one with tow package and one without. The only difference I could tell was the one with tow package called out as heavy duty tow and the other one showed medium duty tow. Hopefully others have had this question. Thanks in advance. Hoping soon to be a proud owner.
#2
Junior Member
The first thing to ask is what do you plan on towing? This is just my opinion but I wouldn't buy an F-150 if you plan on towing a good size travel trailer or especially a fifth-wheel. I don't mean to scare you off but buy a bigger truck if you have that option. Maybe you don't and that's ok, but do your research, look at your trucks payload and make sure all the numbers are right. Remember that the dealers will sell you anything and don't believe the sticker that says '1/2-ton towable', because it may not be. We desperately wanted a fifth-wheel and more than one dealer told us 'oh yeah no sweat, you can tow that' but once we added up the weights, I would've been overloaded and therefore unsafe on the road.
Good luck and happy RVing!
Good luck and happy RVing!
#3
Senior Member
The first thing to ask is what do you plan on towing? This is just my opinion but I wouldn't buy an F-150 if you plan on towing a good size travel trailer or especially a fifth-wheel. I don't mean to scare you off but buy a bigger truck if you have that option. Maybe you don't and that's ok, but do your research, look at your trucks payload and make sure all the numbers are right. Remember that the dealers will sell you anything and don't believe the sticker that says '1/2-ton towable', because it may not be. We desperately wanted a fifth-wheel and more than one dealer told us 'oh yeah no sweat, you can tow that' but once we added up the weights, I would've been overloaded and therefore unsafe on the road.
Good luck and happy RVing!
Good luck and happy RVing!
#4
Grumpy Old Man
Without the trailer tow pkg 53A you won't have a receiver hitch, 7-pin connector near the receiver, or auxiliary tranny cooler. Yes, all F-150 have a tranny cooler, but you need the auxiliary if you are going to tow more than a rowboat. Are you sure that heat exchanger you saw was the auxiliary (oil to air) tranny cooler?
The 2.7L EcoBoost drivetrain is relatively new. Unlike the other models, it does not have enough payload capacity to haul a normal trailer along with normal people and stuff in the cab. So be certain your F-150 2.7L also has the 2.7L EcoBoost Payload Pkg (622). That gives you not only more payload capacity for hitch weight, but also the 3.73 e-locker axle and the 9.75" rear axle for pulling that weight. Don't leave home without the 622 package.
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#5
Senior Member
Without the trailer tow pkg 53A you won't have a receiver hitch, 7-pin connector near the receiver, or auxiliary tranny cooler. Yes, all F-150 have a tranny cooler, but you need the auxiliary if you are going to tow more than a rowboat. Are you sure that heat exchanger you saw was the auxiliary (oil to air) tranny cooler?
The 2.7L EcoBoost drivetrain is relatively new. Unlike the other models, it does not have enough payload capacity to haul a normal trailer along with normal people and stuff in the cab. So be certain your F-150 2.7L also has the 2.7L EcoBoost Payload Pkg (622). That gives you not only more payload capacity for hitch weight, but also the 3.73 e-locker axle and the 9.75" rear axle for pulling that weight. Don't leave home without the 622 package.
The 2.7L EcoBoost drivetrain is relatively new. Unlike the other models, it does not have enough payload capacity to haul a normal trailer along with normal people and stuff in the cab. So be certain your F-150 2.7L also has the 2.7L EcoBoost Payload Pkg (622). That gives you not only more payload capacity for hitch weight, but also the 3.73 e-locker axle and the 9.75" rear axle for pulling that weight. Don't leave home without the 622 package.
Guess we need to define what a "normal" trailer is
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Grumpy Old Man
#7
Senior Member
I wonder though, the 5.0 base with tow has the smaller axle, same transmission and springs. Only has about 10 lbft of torque more, why is the towing capacity higher, and I guess a higher payload?
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#8
I appreciate all the replies. My real interest is what changes on the F150's Super Crew with the 2.7L engine when you add the tow package. From everything I reviewed on the parts website it appears to be just a solid front sway bar with the tow package. Unless there is another trans cooler on the vehicle, both 2.7L with and without tow package had a trans cooler mounted in front of the radiator. Shocks, springs, axles, radiator all where the same for the vehicles on the parts site. So if anyone know what changes mechanically besides what I stated please chime in. Thanks.
I really just want to know if I every need to tow something greater than 5000lbs in the future what I need to change. For now I don't need the extra tow capacity.
I really just want to know if I every need to tow something greater than 5000lbs in the future what I need to change. For now I don't need the extra tow capacity.
#9
http://www.fordf150blog.com/2-7-lite...-chevy-5-3-v8/
It makes more power and torque than GM's 5.3L across the board which was rated at 355hp and 383 ft-lbs.
The 5.0 does have more hp than the 2.7 so in terms of pure pulling power it is a little bit better. That said the 2.7 has the low end torque so it probably does as good of a job 99% of the time.
Last edited by mass-hole; 04-25-2016 at 09:41 PM.
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#10
Senior Member
Smokey answered your packing question
For why the 2.7 rated so low its all marketing and up selling. Doubtful the 3.5 cost more then the 2.7 to produce but they charge you a lot more. Compare a 5.4 from the past and the 2.7 is just as capable. From my experience towing with the 2.7 at its limit is the rear suspension and shock are too soft. I sold my trailer and got a motorhome so I love the way my F150 rides. I added a set of air bags and it fixed the soft rear. Still waiting for aftermarket shocks to be available.
For why the 2.7 rated so low its all marketing and up selling. Doubtful the 3.5 cost more then the 2.7 to produce but they charge you a lot more. Compare a 5.4 from the past and the 2.7 is just as capable. From my experience towing with the 2.7 at its limit is the rear suspension and shock are too soft. I sold my trailer and got a motorhome so I love the way my F150 rides. I added a set of air bags and it fixed the soft rear. Still waiting for aftermarket shocks to be available.