Towing with premium
#11
If you are going up grades, you do want to use Premium. Made the mistake of using 85 in Colorado once, once. There is no 87 there. Use 91 instead. In non mountain climbing though 87 has worked out just fine.
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RichAP (04-23-2019)
#12
On my 5.0 premium is good for a couple mpg and very noticeable difference. Times have changed and old rules no longer apply.
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chimmike (04-22-2019)
#13
Grumpy Old Man
Back when my 2012 3.5L EcoBoost was new, I did extensive testing of regular vs, premium when towing my 5k TT and 6k cargo trailer - mostly across the plains where regular was 87 octane and premium was 91.
Results?
Premium increased MPG enough to pay for the higher cost of premium. Plus the F-150 seemed to "like" towing with the premium a lot more than struggling with regular. So no downside to using premium when towing.
But I was required to plan way ahead and have a nearly-empty 36-gallon gas tank before filling up with premium for a towing trip.
Ideal prep would be to haul a 5-gallon can of premium, then run out of gas before you pour in that 5 gallons of premium, then drive to a gas station and fill up with premium.
I haven't towed with the 2019 yet, so no comment on whether it needs premium or is more cost effective using premium. But Ford still says to use premium when towing, so I probably will, even if it's not cost effective.
Results?
Premium increased MPG enough to pay for the higher cost of premium. Plus the F-150 seemed to "like" towing with the premium a lot more than struggling with regular. So no downside to using premium when towing.
But I was required to plan way ahead and have a nearly-empty 36-gallon gas tank before filling up with premium for a towing trip.
Ideal prep would be to haul a 5-gallon can of premium, then run out of gas before you pour in that 5 gallons of premium, then drive to a gas station and fill up with premium.
I haven't towed with the 2019 yet, so no comment on whether it needs premium or is more cost effective using premium. But Ford still says to use premium when towing, so I probably will, even if it's not cost effective.
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#14
Back when my 2012 3.5L EcoBoost was new, I did extensive testing of regular vs, premium when towing my 5k TT and 6k cargo trailer - mostly across the plains where regular was 87 octane and premium was 91.
Results?
Premium increased MPG enough to pay for the higher cost of premium. Plus the F-150 seemed to "like" towing with the premium a lot more than struggling with regular. So no downside to using premium when towing.
But I was required to plan way ahead and have a nearly-empty 36-gallon gas tank before filling up with premium for a towing trip.
Ideal prep would be to haul a 5-gallon can of premium, then run out of gas before you pour in that 5 gallons of premium, then drive to a gas station and fill up with premium.
I haven't towed with the 2019 yet, so no comment on whether it needs premium or is more cost effective using premium. But Ford still says to use premium when towing, so I probably will, even if it's not cost effective.
Results?
Premium increased MPG enough to pay for the higher cost of premium. Plus the F-150 seemed to "like" towing with the premium a lot more than struggling with regular. So no downside to using premium when towing.
But I was required to plan way ahead and have a nearly-empty 36-gallon gas tank before filling up with premium for a towing trip.
Ideal prep would be to haul a 5-gallon can of premium, then run out of gas before you pour in that 5 gallons of premium, then drive to a gas station and fill up with premium.
I haven't towed with the 2019 yet, so no comment on whether it needs premium or is more cost effective using premium. But Ford still says to use premium when towing, so I probably will, even if it's not cost effective.
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chimmike (04-22-2019)
#15
Senile member
I think my paranoia on 93 comes from my days of daily driving a tuned WRX. This was back in 2006 and I understand the turbo charged engines of today are totally different beasts than what we had back then, but putting low octane fuel into Subaru Forced Induction engine was a recipe for all kinds of bad things to happen.
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Jeff1024 (04-22-2019)
#16
Senior Member
2016 F150 3.5L Ecoboost towing out 8200lbs trailer, I couldn't notice any difference between 87 or 93, so I stuck with 87. I tow at 65MPH in 5th gear (lock out 6th). The truck runs smoooooooth.
#17
Senior Member
Ecoboosts are some of the only turbo motors capable of 87. That doesn’t mean they like it. One of this big tuners showed a stock G2 eco hitting knock detectors on 87. So much more when it’s hot out, run premium when towing
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#18
In high elevation areas regular is 85 octane. 87 octane is readily available but is labeled (and priced) as mid grade. Premium is 89, 90 or 91 octane depending on station.
As you experienced running 85 isn’t good! Out West you have to look at the pump and read the octane when filling EcoBoosts. Ford doesn’t recommend less than 87.
As you experienced running 85 isn’t good! Out West you have to look at the pump and read the octane when filling EcoBoosts. Ford doesn’t recommend less than 87.
I have yet to run premium in my 18 yet, but the 14 and 16 saw no difference in MPG when towing, and since the 16 ran like crap regardless of a tune or not with premium I just ran 87 all the time. The 14 with a 91 tow/perf tune ran great and got better MPG in the summer on Premium.
#19
I run premium when towing, especially during the heat of the summer day, and I can tell the difference in how it pulls..
On a cool summer night, I may consider running regular if the terrain is flat enough.
On a cool summer night, I may consider running regular if the terrain is flat enough.
#20
Senior Member
Back when my 2012 3.5L EcoBoost was new, I did extensive testing of regular vs, premium when towing my 5k TT and 6k cargo trailer - mostly across the plains where regular was 87 octane and premium was 91.
Results?
Premium increased MPG enough to pay for the higher cost of premium. Plus the F-150 seemed to "like" towing with the premium a lot more than struggling with regular. So no downside to using premium when towing.....
Results?
Premium increased MPG enough to pay for the higher cost of premium. Plus the F-150 seemed to "like" towing with the premium a lot more than struggling with regular. So no downside to using premium when towing.....
Pulling our relatively lightweight TT (~5,000lbs) on an identical route on separate occasions to one of our favourite campgrounds, using both 87 and 93 octane, I definitely noticed a difference in performance.
Nowadays I only use the premium juice when towing, and find the benefits most noticeable in the mountainous areas in my neck of the woods.
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