EcoboostKev

The only reason why people feel the 5.0 is less of an engine is because of its torque curve. The Eco makes more torque at 1800rpms than the 5.0 makes 4250 rpms . And when towing toque is king! ! That's why people feel it's less of an engine. Also the eco is built with all forged internals to handle the power it puts out and then some. So it's longevity might surprise you. I have read in the past that the truck 5.0 has different internals and heads compared to the 5.0 in the Mustang.

5.0GN tow

EcoboostKev, I would not go quite so far with the numbers as you go, the ECO is good, but you wont feel 380lbs down at 1800, plus and I have an Eco in my Lincoln and can say this honestly, I dont think the eco is as strong down low off the line as is reported. Those numbers dont show up in real life like on an engine dyno, you have to get turbos spooling and until about 2K+ most wheel dynos show it being hard pressed to show the torque claimed. When I roll the Lincoln, it seems to build torque very well, but is like most turbos, feeling a little laggy unless you brake and gas to keep revs up first. Its the nature of the beast even in diesels, they just mask it with bigger cubes.

I like both engines, but dont count the 5.0 short on internals, with a forged crank and cross bolted mains, it also has the largest oil capacity of any of the truck motors, with nearly 8 quarts in there to help keep things cool under heavy load work. While I grant you its not as torquey as the eco, its still no slouch, and is very under rated by Ford.

smurfs_of_war

Whether at 1800 rpms or 4250 rpms, the part being overlooked is that both engines are doing as they were designed to do. The 5.0 is built to rev and the EB built to lug, however both will accomplish the same task. It's a matter of user preference and Ford's marketing pushing the Eco. The numbers make no sense- the 5.0 is a better engine than the 5.4 was yet the old 5.4 was more "capable" according to the marketing. I have to agree- the 5.0 is seriously under rated.

Mike Up

Exactly! Pickuptrucks.com had trouble getting dyno readings like Fords. Ford came out to the dyno and they had to properly tune the dyno to give results 'similar' to what Ford claimed. It took "HOURS" to dial that dyno in for best Ecoboost results. In the end, the "TUNED" dyno for the Ecoboost showed terrible results for the 5.0L which is to be expected when the dyno was tuned to 'favor' the Ecoboost. Also, it was only in the upper gears that the Ecoboost could provide the rated torque at lower rpms, on the "TUNED" dyno!

However without specific tuning for the Ecoboost, the results were very different from Ford's results.

You stated what I've stated long ago about how my Ecoboost Test Drives went with 3 different Ecoboost trucks.

I always liked the feeling of the 5.0L better. Better response, more consistent power, and instantaneous power from a stop (no turbo lag). The Ecoboost also did not feel as powerful as Ford was saying it was. In the upper gears where it was noticeably more powerful, it's greater power wasn't significant.

For "ME", definitely not worth the condensation problem, and other problems known to come with turbo charged "GAS" vehicles.

The only disappointment with the 5.0L was the lack of a Max Tow package option where the cost is the same as buying the Ford Tow Mirrors from the Parts Department.

Pickuptrucks.com dyno test that was tuned to favor the Ecoboost

Pickuptrucks.com dyno test that wasn't tuned to favor either engine.

PawPaw

Maximum towing weight show's 8,000 lbs for your truck. This is from the 2013 brochure from Ford. Jump's to 9,400 with the 3.73 rear...crazy jump!

KR Kodi

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Not sure what you're saying. Do you mean that it was too expensive to upgrade to the Max Tow pkg??

Because I know when I was shopping for my 2013 the 5.0L was available with the Max Tow pkg. Looking in my 2013 brochure it looks like you could get a Max Tow pkg with the EcoBoost, 5.0, or 6.2.

I was just building a 2014 Lariat on the Ford site and could get Max Tow with any of those three engines as well.

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11screw50

Odd, I cant find max tow with the 5.0, heavy duty payload yes, max tow now. Any chance you can grab a screen shot?

11screw50

And I've read in the past that the internals are the same...and the rods are the weak point.

MGNY13

Yeah can someone tell me how that 3.73 bumped it up 1,400lbs?

KR Kodi

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OwEXACTLY!!! The HD includes/requires the Max Tow pkg!

Heres a pic of my 2013 brochure. The table in the upper right shows GVWRs available. The bottom row of the 5.0L (both 2x and 4x4) have the 8200 lb GVWR, and you can see that it's only available in the longest wheelbase/bed length for each cab config. There's a small "2" that refers to a footnote that it's the HD pkg.

When building a Lariat on the Ford site I selected a SCrew longbed with the 5.0 and 3.73 limited slip rear, and it says the HD pkg is included and:

So....you can certainly get the Max Tow.