nihilus

Haha maybe he will get an F-450 next time. Did he smash into something, why is the front not shown?

smurfs_of_war

Aren't the new 450s rated as a Class 3 now- same as the 350s?

I kid, I kid...

Anyways, not much to tell- no details. This was on our local truck group page- dude is from a rural town out by us. I guess they said it just buckled and it's still sitting there as I type.

I really wasn't trying to be an ***- I really wanted to know if he "felt this"- because that slide in alone is likely way over once loaded- pretty sure he is on the ragged edge dry- given it's an FX4, maybe over dry. Not sure what's in the cargo trailer. I couldn't imagine he felt comfortable in that. I would have been crapping my pants pulling out of the yard.

Farmboy2012

I'd like to see that extended hitch on that enclosed trailer..That must be one beefy thing if the truck frame bent before it did...

smurfs_of_war

I think the hitched trailer was just the proverbial straw. Some guys on the site did some quick research and one guy piped in that he had the identical camper and the dry weight came in just over 4500lbs. With passengers, fuel, water (if he had any) and tongue weight- what would you figure he had gone over? I did a quick build online of a 2015 F350DRW FX4 and it said max payload 5928lbs, but with the options- likely in the mid 4 range? Given it's a 2015 I built and couldn't get stats on that model in particular, I dunno- but that is a huge amount of weight behind the rear axle, and I think that's what did him in ultimately- too much leverage.

Mike Up

Camping this week. Drove about 45 minutes to an hour to a local campground. Still can't believe the power of this 5.0L. Off the line, I was accelerating with traffic when I wanted to. Backed off as I didn't want to burn up gas needlessly. Just can't get over what a powerhouse this 5.0L is pulling the camper. On top of it, I got an all time high 11.5 mpg pulling it. Of course this was without hills or any wind (which is very rare). Normally get between 10.5 and 11.0 mpg.

For a heavier trailer, I think this 5.0L coupled with the heavy duty payload package, Ford Tow mirrors and Ford TBC would be one hek of a truck for towing at a very reasonable price. Actually it'll have better performance compared to a F250 6.2L due to it's lighter weight.

packplantpath

Only if you define performance as acceleration and don't care about handling and braking. The additional weight of the 250 helps. Stopping and handling is far more important than acceleration to me.

We routinely tow 6-8000 lbs with 250 &350 since the handling and comfort is orders of magnitude better than any HD payload max tow 1\2 ton truck. It is especially nice for us since we have lots of young, inexperienced drivers who rotate in and our quickly. Safety first.

Farmboy2012

To me that's only an issue if you don't have trailer brakes.

packplantpath

Trailer brakes help you steer? Trailer brakes help keep a heavy trailer from pushing around the truck in wind or curves. I don't think so.

Safety has nothing to do with handling in everyday situations. It is about handling in emergencies. Can you avoid the accident or not. Half tons just don't do as well in any category except pulling power.

Farmboy2012

No, the steering wheel helps me steer.. Then a properly setup Weight distribution hitch with sway control takes care of the sway.

Today's halftons are a heck of a lot more capable in just about every aspect vs older 3/4 tons.

And safety has nothing to do with handling every day situations? Really?

I'll admit a 3/4 ton is better had heavier loads, and a tonner is better yet, but somebody with any common sense at all can tow safely with 1/2..

packplantpath

Sure but my post was in response to a claim that a 1\2 ton with proper equipment could be comparable in performance to a f250 gasser and would be better because it is lighter than the 250. All I'm saying is no way, unless you don't care about anything but snatching power.

Half ton towing is great and can be safe, but for any size load over 8000 lbs towed often the benefits of a 3\4 ton get more and more obvious. I spent my teens hauling 15000 lbs behind 1\2 ton sierras, so sure it can be done. But nothing about it was easy. Even properly set up a 1\2 ton can't hold a candle to the 3\4 ton in any category except power.