Towing numbers for 5.0 dont make sense
08-04-2014, 12:29 PM
#51
08-04-2014, 06:40 PM
#52
Senior Member
You guys worry about numbers to much IMO... You should be able to feel by the seat of your pants if you are overloaded or over working the truck. Maybe that comes from years of towing things of unknown weight, with all kinds of different things. But to me you should be able to tell if your overworking your truck, or towing something beyond the capabilities of the truck.
08-04-2014, 06:42 PM
#53
You guys worry about numbers to much IMO... You should be able to feel by the seat of your pants if you are overloaded or over working the truck. Maybe that comes from years of towing things of unknown weight, with all kinds of different things. But to me you should be able to tell if your overworking your truck, or towing something beyond the capabilities of the truck.
08-04-2014, 08:57 PM
#54
After years of traveling the roadways when pulling construction equipment in either F250, F350, F450 or Class 7 form, I always see amateurs towing more than they can handle because they think they know more.
IMO, I think anyone pulling anything over 10,000 lbs should have to have a CDL and every vehicle/trailer combo should have to hit the weigh stations because of the dangerous, irresponsible, and naive thinking like that.
Funny EVERY trailer accident I've seen was from a trailer that was obviously to much for the truck that was towing it, even though that driver thought he knew it was safe to pull by the seat of his pants.
IMO, I think anyone pulling anything over 10,000 lbs should have to have a CDL and every vehicle/trailer combo should have to hit the weigh stations because of the dangerous, irresponsible, and naive thinking like that.
Funny EVERY trailer accident I've seen was from a trailer that was obviously to much for the truck that was towing it, even though that driver thought he knew it was safe to pull by the seat of his pants.
Last edited by Mike Up; 08-04-2014 at 09:21 PM.
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Ricktwuhk (08-05-2014)
08-04-2014, 09:59 PM
#55
After years of traveling the roadways when pulling construction equipment in either F250, F350, F450 or Class 7 form, I always see amateurs towing more than they can handle because they think they know more.
IMO, I think anyone pulling anything over 10,000 lbs should have to have a CDL and every vehicle/trailer combo should have to hit the weigh stations because of the dangerous, irresponsible, and naive thinking like that.
Funny EVERY trailer accident I've seen was from a trailer that was obviously to much for the truck that was towing it, even though that driver thought he knew it was safe to pull by the seat of his pants.
IMO, I think anyone pulling anything over 10,000 lbs should have to have a CDL and every vehicle/trailer combo should have to hit the weigh stations because of the dangerous, irresponsible, and naive thinking like that.
Funny EVERY trailer accident I've seen was from a trailer that was obviously to much for the truck that was towing it, even though that driver thought he knew it was safe to pull by the seat of his pants.
I won't argue what you're saying. You're right. Common sense is a rare quality.
08-04-2014, 10:04 PM
#56
Senior Member
After years of traveling the roadways when pulling construction equipment in either F250, F350, F450 or Class 7 form, I always see amateurs towing more than they can handle because they think they know more.
IMO, I think anyone pulling anything over 10,000 lbs should have to have a CDL and every vehicle/trailer combo should have to hit the weigh stations because of the dangerous, irresponsible, and naive thinking like that.
Funny EVERY trailer accident I've seen was from a trailer that was obviously to much for the truck that was towing it, even though that driver thought he knew it was safe to pull by the seat of his pants.
IMO, I think anyone pulling anything over 10,000 lbs should have to have a CDL and every vehicle/trailer combo should have to hit the weigh stations because of the dangerous, irresponsible, and naive thinking like that.
Funny EVERY trailer accident I've seen was from a trailer that was obviously to much for the truck that was towing it, even though that driver thought he knew it was safe to pull by the seat of his pants.
Why would a person towing an RV need a commercial drivers license? They are not Commercial.. Now I'm not saying they shouldn't have as special endorsement, like motorcycles have to have. But if you ever dealt with the DOT, you don't want to have to deal with them in an RV. People in cars cause way more wrecks than any RV's..
Common sense goes a lot farther than someone who strictly goes by the numbers and thinks 250lbs over the weight rating is going to make a difference.
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08-05-2014, 08:41 AM
#57
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I can sit on the front porch of my office at lunch every day during the summer and watch 1/2 ton trucks go past on I295 pulling campers that I would never consider hooking up to my truck. Of course, most of them are travelling at 75-80mph too...
That said, I've seen exactly two accidents involving trailers towed by a pickup, one involved a construction site (and knowing how people drive, it was likely caused by some idiot waiting until the last second to merge and cutting the guy off) and the other involved a popup (certainly not anything too large for the truck).
That said, I've seen exactly two accidents involving trailers towed by a pickup, one involved a construction site (and knowing how people drive, it was likely caused by some idiot waiting until the last second to merge and cutting the guy off) and the other involved a popup (certainly not anything too large for the truck).
08-05-2014, 03:42 PM
#58
Having a class 3 with air and regularly driving a tandem with a GVWR of somewhere around 25,600 lbs, you can really tell once you hit that 25,000 lb mark. I have had it loaded to just over 26000 lbs when at the scales at the dump, but I knew it was over loaded the moment I moved. I never let myself get loaded like that again. I can't believe the difference around 500 lbs makes once you're at the capacity of your vehicle.
08-05-2014, 06:46 PM
#59
Senior Member
Having a class 3 with air and regularly driving a tandem with a GVWR of somewhere around 25,600 lbs, you can really tell once you hit that 25,000 lb mark. I have had it loaded to just over 26000 lbs when at the scales at the dump, but I knew it was over loaded the moment I moved. I never let myself get loaded like that again. I can't believe the difference around 500 lbs makes once you're at the capacity of your vehicle.
Exactly you can feel when your vehicle reaches it's limits. I regularly gross 80-82K in my truck, you get over 85K you know it, mostly power wise.