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Old 09-21-2014, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
Most tow in an unsafe manner. Many drive vehicles that are unsafe, with bad tires, low pressure, rusted body panels, worn brakes,... Most are simply ignorant.
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So I guess that many on this forum with their pics of their large TT etc fall into those categories ?
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I comfortably and safely tow 6000lbs with my F150 and have done so for the past 3000 miles give or take a few. Notice I say comfortably and safely and not "within load limits" because load limits are not my primary concern, safety is. Let me explain, an overloaded truck/trailer that is well set up will tow safely while an under loaded truck that is poorly set up will tow un-safely. You also need to keep in mind that 300, 400 or even 500 pounds overloaded isn't going to be enough to de-stabilize a well set up rig my rig proves that. So how does a guy like me make a FORD F150 tow a blasphemous 6000 lbs travel trailer?


I use a good WDH which moves weight off of the bumper, where it creates the greatest amount of instability, and moves it forward into the truck so that the whole truck can bare the load and stabilize it. The WDH also moves about 20% of the ball weight back into the trailer which also helps reduce the weight on the truck which helps with the GVR (I do pay attention to the numbers). Rule of thumb is that when you have the truck sitting level, you are done. This kind of 'rule' applies to reasonable loads that are close to or within your tow limits. Using a WDH to stabilize a 10,000lb load on a 7500lb load rated truck is possible but is also really stupid.


So, can you safely pull a measly 5288lbs with your truck, absolutely. Can you pull it un-safely, absolutely. Would I load a safe and stable 5288lb trailer up to 6000 lbs and drive it down the I69 and the I75 at the posted speed limit? Well, that's exactly what I just did. For your information, the weenie dog races at the Frankenmuth Oktoberfest are hilarious.
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I comfortably and safely tow 6000lbs with my F150 and have done so for the past 3000 miles give or take a few. Notice I say comfortably and safely and not "within load limits" because load limits are not my primary concern, safety is. Let me explain, an overloaded truck/trailer that is well set up will tow safely while an under loaded truck that is poorly set up will tow un-safely. You also need to keep in mind that 300, 400 or even 500 pounds overloaded isn't going to be enough to de-stabilize a well set up rig my rig proves that. So how does a guy like me make a FORD F150 tow a blasphemous 6000 lbs travel trailer?


I use a good WDH which moves weight off of the bumper, where it creates the greatest amount of instability, and moves it forward into the truck so that the whole truck can bare the load and stabilize it. The WDH also moves about 20% of the ball weight back into the trailer which also helps reduce the weight on the truck which helps with the GVR (I do pay attention to the numbers). Rule of thumb is that when you have the truck sitting level, you are done. This kind of 'rule' applies to reasonable loads that are close to or within your tow limits. Using a WDH to stabilize a 10,000lb load on a 7500lb load rated truck is possible but is also really stupid.


So, can you safely pull a measly 5288lbs with your truck, absolutely. Can you pull it un-safely, absolutely. Would I load a safe and stable 5288lb trailer up to 6000 lbs and drive it down the I69 and the I75 at the posted speed limit? Well, that's exactly what I just did. For your information, the weenie dog races at the Frankenmuth Oktoberfest are hilarious.
Thank you
I just bought my ez lift weight distribution hitch with friction sway control
Tow mirrors ordered ford oem
I am making sure to have every safety feature I can to tow my TT safely .. Spoke to ford dealer service dept tow expert and asked him .. He echoed what you said ... He thinks that I shouldn't have any issues at all with my TT .. Even if I loaded it close to 7500 lbs.. Which I couldn't imagine how I would add 1300 lbs... Can't wait until our first trip

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Originally Posted by Boulevard
I comfortably and safely tow 6000lbs with my F150 and have done so for the past 3000 miles give or take a few. Notice I say comfortably and safely and not "within load limits" because load limits are not my primary concern, safety is. Let me explain, an overloaded truck/trailer that is well set up will tow safely while an under loaded truck that is poorly set up will tow un-safely. You also need to keep in mind that 300, 400 or even 500 pounds overloaded isn't going to be enough to de-stabilize a well set up rig my rig proves that. So how does a guy like me make a FORD F150 tow a blasphemous 6000 lbs travel trailer?


I use a good WDH which moves weight off of the bumper, where it creates the greatest amount of instability, and moves it forward into the truck so that the whole truck can bare the load and stabilize it. The WDH also moves about 20% of the ball weight back into the trailer which also helps reduce the weight on the truck which helps with the GVR (I do pay attention to the numbers). Rule of thumb is that when you have the truck sitting level, you are done. This kind of 'rule' applies to reasonable loads that are close to or within your tow limits. Using a WDH to stabilize a 10,000lb load on a 7500lb load rated truck is possible but is also really stupid.


So, can you safely pull a measly 5288lbs with your truck, absolutely. Can you pull it un-safely, absolutely. Would I load a safe and stable 5288lb trailer up to 6000 lbs and drive it down the I69 and the I75 at the posted speed limit? Well, that's exactly what I just did. For your information, the weenie dog races at the Frankenmuth Oktoberfest are hilarious.
Common sense goes a long way in getting home save everyday. Personally, I think I would rather have too much weight properly set up as opposed to lesser weight set up wrong.
Yesterday, I passed a landscape crew with a crew cab dually pulling a flatbed tandem axle trailer. Proper equipment for the job. Problem was they had a pallet of rock on the rear of the trailer. When I pulled up beside them, you could see the trailer coupler trying it's best to pop off. They exited to the freeway and I said a prayer for them and anyone else that happened to be too close.
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I think you will be ok. My tt is 5100 dry and also 26 foot. I do not have max tow and I'm rated for 8400 pounds. I have the pro series hitch and wdh and friction bar. Do I think I'm at the Max for my truck yeah I do. We pack lightly and never haul anything in the tanks. I would say we carry max 300 pounds of luggage and food and of course beer lol. My truck has the 3.31 rear and 4wd 145 inch wb. Tongue weight of my tt is 650. Truck hauls it fine but will give me a little pogo effect on some rougher roads. I will be honest if I could do it again I would have bought a f 250 just basically for a piece of mind knowing I would be well below the limits of it. But when I bought my truck I never planned on buying a tt. And all these towing numbers are kind of hard to fiqure out and ford's commercials saying how much the f150 would tow kind of had me fooled that my truck since it had a ecoboost would tow my tt basically with no problems. But I'm still fairly new to towing anything and didn't know as much at the time as I do know.

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Originally Posted by cheftjpeck
I just bought a 2014
Ford f150 super crew cab with 3.5 ecoboost.. It has trailer tow package and Trailer brake control etc .. According to what I have read at its current set up its towing capacity is 8600 lbs . I am looking to buy a 26 foot travel trailer with 5288 dry weight ..should I be ok.,
I would say so...and I believe its 9600# not 8600...

You don't need all the calculus formulas here, just figure out roughly what you'll be putting in the trailer and kids, etc.

I tow my 26" enclosed trailer with sleds and gas and beer and stuff at around 5000# without problem. That's with a couple of guys in the cab and a box full of beer! P.S. through the mountains of British Columbia.
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Originally Posted by dannofx4

I would say so...and I believe its 9600# not 8600...

You don't need all the calculus formulas here, just figure out roughly what you'll be putting in the trailer and kids, etc.

I tow my 26" enclosed trailer with sleds and gas and beer and stuff at around 5000# without problem. That's with a couple of guys in the cab and a box full of beer! P.S. through the mountains of British Columbia.
Your fine with properly set up weight distribution hitch
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Originally Posted by smurfs_of_war
It all depends on trim level, packages (max tow, hd payload) and the simple fact that likely 75% of the people you see towing are overloaded from moderate to severe.
I don't know about 75% ... thats a little extreme.
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
Most tow in an unsafe manner. Many drive vehicles that are unsafe, with bad tires, low pressure, rusted body panels, worn brakes,... Most are simply ignorant.
? huh
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Originally Posted by dannofx4
I don't know about 75% ... thats a little extreme.

Hmmm.. not around here. You'd be surprised. In our little backwoods province, it's hook, go, have fun, repeat.


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