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04-05-2017, 08:30 PM

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5,000 pounds is NOT correct. It's 3,000 pounds in nearly all states (except Alaska and a handful of others). North Dakota's rules are different, but in fact requires that the safety chains must apply the brakes if it brakes away, which is even more restrictive. http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/trailer-brakes/

Further, any trailer without brakes cannot exceed 40% of the gross weight of the towing vehicle. 3,000 / .4 = 7,500, so that's not an issue with an F-150.

Been a long time since I looked at the towing laws. Use to be a few states that would let you pull 5K with out trailer brakes. Good to know its been lowered to 3K.

Years ago, 1996 I had a first year 1 ton with ABS brakes. I had a tekonsha brake controller. Had to make a pannic stop with a 9K trailer behind me. Well as soon as I got into the ABS on the truck, trailer brakes released. That was not fun.

Talked with Tekonsha about it, they had to revise wiring instructions, so controller was wired before abs, not after. ABS pulsing was to fast to keep controller on. I got a refund for the cost of my controller for helping them.

So I can only imagine trying to stop more weight with a much lighter truck.

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04-05-2017, 09:57 PM

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Um. Wouldn't that mean it IS a problem for most F150s (3,000lb trailer w/o brakes)? Most F150's have a GVWR that is less than 7500lb.

Based on that my F150 with only 6800 gvwr can only tow 2720 without trailer brakes.

But my F250 could tow 4000 pounds without trailer brakes.

I gotta look that rule up. I'm missing something.

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04-05-2017, 10:02 PM

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Um. Wouldn't that mean it IS a problem for most F150s (3,000lb trailer w/o brakes)? Most F150's have a GVWR that is less than 7500lb.

Right. Wrote it wrong.

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04-05-2017, 10:20 PM

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Ok. Only 3 or 4 states that have that 40% rule. I don't go there. So we're good.

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04-05-2017, 10:42 PM

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If your truck has the towing package, this is plug and play. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pilot-80550-...1SM4m0&vxp=mtr

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04-05-2017, 11:37 PM

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Thanks a lot guys for the info I will let you know what i did when am done

Thank you!

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04-06-2017, 12:56 AM

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Thank you every one for the responses, dump truck charges 100 dollars to deliver it and 60 for the dirt per load = 160. vs less than 60 per equal load.. I am going to talk to a buddy of mine to see if we can use his 2500. might be my best bet.

Thank you again

I have had need for a lot of topsoil, limestone road pack, and washed river rock hauled. I have had deliveries done by either semi-truck dump, tandem truck dump, 1-ton mini-dump, or used my own F150's 6 1/2' bed and a shovel, depending upon the amount needed. It is usually cheapest to hire the truck that can do the job without multiple trips. Why would you make multiple trips with a 14,000 dump trailer when you could hire a semi or tandem to do the job with many fewer trips? Your time and the wear & tear on your vehicle is not free.

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04-09-2017, 07:48 PM

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hello

Before anyone freaks out, I know a guy that did it but he has trailer brake and I don't.

going to try to tow a dump trailer 12000-14000 it is a very short distance 5-8miles and maybe 50mph max speed. (I am hauling dirt and I have a very limited budget) need to be done this year...

What do you guys think? would you do it? - I don't have an alternative. the other option will be splitting the load into two but that is going to double my trips. right now I am estimating 16-20 trip.

Thanks for the input

I would do it if it was one or two trips, but 16 to 20 I would not. I also would not drive 50mph I would be going 30-35mph atmost. If I were you I would make the loads smaller around 8000lbs and take more trips. Also most people on the internet are safety ***** and have never used there truck as a truck