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Old 08-28-2017, 03:48 PM
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We went camping this weekend up island. As we pulled in we noticed a huge, older 34'+ trailer , with a Ram 1500 parked in front of it. My wife and I looked at each other and said...that's got to be their commuter truck..not the one that pulls it. We both agreed at that . Well, yesterday that commuter truck pulled out with that trailer. Almost zero steering on the front in the loose gravel (had to touch brakes) and very little on pavement. We couldn't believe it! They loaded the box of the truck (with a topper on it) and loaded their kids (3) into the back seat and away they went. I saw all kinds of people writing down their license number as EVERY sane person who saw this KNEW he was dangerous. I told elaine he may just live down the road as he did leave some stuff within his site....so I was going to hold off calling him in. 15 minutes later he did come back with just the truck, loaded and left.

Still, it was an accident waiting to happen...even IN the campground. But some people still don't realize the legal capability of their truck. A couple guys I talked to looked at mine and basically said....those options kill your payload/towing rating , don't they. I agreed. I asked what they had for ratings and none of them knew...so we went door sticker looking. Yea...both had Ram 1500's Guess what....I had more payload than they did...and better towing rating. Guess what else....they soon stopped bragging about the Ram 1500 and looked at our truck in a whole new light! LOL
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even if they don't investigate you criminally, you can bet your bippy a personal injury lawyer will figure it all out. There's tens of thousands of lawyers in Florida just drooling for easy negligence cases who would jump ALL OVER it.
Hard to believe a lawyer would stoop that low!!
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Lawyers don't stoop, they reach up.
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Originally Posted by acdii
Lawyers don't stoop, they reach up.
BAHAHAHAHA.......thanks dude...gotta clean my desk up again! Cut it out!
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Lawyers don't stoop, they reach up.
Depends on how high your pockets are! Lots of lawyers get their law degree at Lie-O-La University in New Orleans!!
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Originally Posted by Simnut
We went camping this weekend up island. As we pulled in we noticed a huge, older 34'+ trailer , with a Ram 1500 parked in front of it. My wife and I looked at each other and said...that's got to be their commuter truck..not the one that pulls it. We both agreed at that . Well, yesterday that commuter truck pulled out with that trailer. Almost zero steering on the front in the loose gravel (had to touch brakes) and very little on pavement. We couldn't believe it! They loaded the box of the truck (with a topper on it) and loaded their kids (3) into the back seat and away they went. I saw all kinds of people writing down their license number as EVERY sane person who saw this KNEW he was dangerous. I told elaine he may just live down the road as he did leave some stuff within his site....so I was going to hold off calling him in. 15 minutes later he did come back with just the truck, loaded and left.

Still, it was an accident waiting to happen...even IN the campground. But some people still don't realize the legal capability of their truck. A couple guys I talked to looked at mine and basically said....those options kill your payload/towing rating , don't they. I agreed. I asked what they had for ratings and none of them knew...so we went door sticker looking. Yea...both had Ram 1500's Guess what....I had more payload than they did...and better towing rating. Guess what else....they soon stopped bragging about the Ram 1500 and looked at our truck in a whole new light! LOL
What were they? I've hear of a few rams that were under 900 lbs.
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What were they? I've hear of a few rams that were under 900 lbs.
He is 50 lbs less than we are and we are at 1147 lbs. Now, the guy that we talked to was NOT the 1500 that pulled out with that huge trailer. But, we did learn a lot about Rams
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Originally Posted by Simnut
He is 50 lbs less than we are and we are at 1147 lbs. Now, the guy that we talked to was NOT the 1500 that pulled out with that huge trailer. But, we did learn a lot about Rams
Ram owners like to overload their trucks. I keep saying it here. I spent a good amount of time on the Ram Ecodiesel forum when I was interested in picking one up and those dudes will tell you to overload without question. Something about Ram being conservative and the GAWR's add up to more than the GVWR. Basically the same things we encounter with the F150 but generally dont make excuses about.

They can't swallow the fact that even a base model Ram Ecodiesel crew cab maxes out at 1250 lbs of payload or something like that, and a moderately optioned one is near 1000 lbs. I've seen fully loaded Limited ecodiesel's at or below 900. The Hemis are not too far behind since they are not much lighter than the ecodiesel.

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Here are some other lawsuits just to reinforce the point:
"PICKUP TRAILER ACCIDENT LAWSUIT SETTLEMENTS
1. DeHoyos v. Millennium Resources, LP. (Reagan County, Texas, 2007)

An employee of man Millennium Resources was driving a company pickup truck towing 7,600 pounds of drilling pipe in the course and scope of his employment. The trailer began swaying and he was unable to stop. He lost control of the trailer and the truck overturned, killing the driver.

The driver’s family then sued the company that he worked for, Millennium Resources. The Plaintifs alleged that the company loaded the driver’s trailer with too much weight and that they did not instruct him in the proper way to load the trailer. The case settled out of court for $945,000.

2. Martinez v. Wade (Ellis County, Texas 2008)

A man was driving a pickup truck in the course and scope of his business with Celadon Trucking. He changed lanes but was unable to pull his trailer back into his lane in a timely manner. His vehicle collided with another vehicle operated by two other individuals who were badly injured and sued the driver and his company.

The jury found that the pickup truck and trailer were not properly equipped to carry the load. The jury awarded the Plaintiffs $1.3 Million and found the Defendant to be grossly negligent.

3. Burkhart v. Loftin and Dacon (Harris County, Texas, 2010)

A lady was driving next to a truck whose trailer was loaded improperly. The truck / trailer was owned and operated by Infrasource Dacon, LLC. The trailer hit a bump and part of the trailer’s load came loose. A 300-pound insulator rolled onto the lady’s vehicle. She was injured and the jury awarded her $290,000.

4. Kaiser v. Down to Earth Landscaping, Inc. (Ocean County, New Jersey, 2011)

A landscaping company’s trailer de-coupled from the truck towing it due to a faulty trailer hitch and other safety cables and precautions. The trailer then collided with a 58-year old woman and did substantial medical damage. The jury awarded $2.7 million.

5. Perry v. Diffee Ford Lincoln Mercury (Colorado State Court, 2009)

Truck was hauling a trailer that was too heavy and on improper tires. The trailer came loose and killed a man in oncoming traffic. The man’s family sued the truck / trailer company and recovered $2.25 million."

Not only are you putting yourself and your family at risk but others as well.
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America, you so crazy! I've seen some crazy stuff being towed around here, definitely overloaded, but I've never seen one pulled over, and no pickup truck or RV would ever have to stop at a weigh station. I just see the clowns towing a small house and keep my distance. In this province, you can also double tow. Pretty much every weekend I head up north to camping I see a pickup truck towing a travel trailer that has a hitch on the back, and there`s another trailer with a boat hooked up to the TT in a train.


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We went camping this weekend up island. As we pulled in we noticed a huge, older 34'+ trailer , with a Ram 1500 parked in front of it. My wife and I looked at each other and said...that's got to be their commuter truck..not the one that pulls it. We both agreed at that . Well, yesterday that commuter truck pulled out with that trailer. Almost zero steering on the front in the loose gravel (had to touch brakes) and very little on pavement. We couldn't believe it! They loaded the box of the truck (with a topper on it) and loaded their kids (3) into the back seat and away they went. I saw all kinds of people writing down their license number as EVERY sane person who saw this KNEW he was dangerous. I told elaine he may just live down the road as he did leave some stuff within his site....so I was going to hold off calling him in. 15 minutes later he did come back with just the truck, loaded and left.

Still, it was an accident waiting to happen...even IN the campground. But some people still don't realize the legal capability of their truck. A couple guys I talked to looked at mine and basically said....those options kill your payload/towing rating , don't they. I agreed. I asked what they had for ratings and none of them knew...so we went door sticker looking. Yea...both had Ram 1500's Guess what....I had more payload than they did...and better towing rating. Guess what else....they soon stopped bragging about the Ram 1500 and looked at our truck in a whole new light! LOL
Yeah, I saw a pretty large trailer with a Jeep Rubicon parked next to it. Thought the same as you "That can't be to tow THAT". Sure enough, it was. They were fuelling up at a gas station on Sunday when we were leaving, with the trailer hooked up.



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