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Old 03-04-2019, 01:17 PM
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I don't have one picked out yet--I'm probably a year out from needing to tow anything. But, it would be a very basic 2-horse bumper pull, no dressing room, so under 3000 lbs (empty). Only hauling 1 horse (~1200 lbs) and maybe another 350 lbs of stuff and passengers. Local trips to shows, vet, etc.
So say 5k trailer weight which means 650lb on the ball at 13% tongue weight. I think horse trailers average less than 13% as the weight is over the axle but I am not a horse expert plus over estimating avoids gotcha's.

500lbs in the truck /w people and stuff and things. Again over estimate, but what if your long lost cousin wants to come to a show? Cant turn away cousin Eddie.

That's only 1150 total.

My platinum is 1545, Lariat will be closer to if not a bit over 1,600. Buy the nice truck and enjoy your dual climate control and 4A.

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Yes, the weight is centered over the axle. I'm not an expert either--I don't know nearly enough about the specifics! What I DO know is there is a huge difference in hauling live weight vs. dead weight, and the rig needs to have enough weight and stability to counteract a horse that starts kicking, leaning, goes down in the trailer, etc.....this is where the sales guys at the dealerships--and my own dad who is not a horse person--unfortunately stop being helpful (no, a Colorado isn't going to be enough truck!!!). Thank you very much for your time!
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I have a 2018 Platinum with 1557 pound payload and tow a 28' RV trailer that weighs in at 6400 pounds, a horse trailer is nothing like that and barely needs a WDH. I used to tow my horse trailer with a 97 Ford Explorer, it towed OK, can barely feel it behind the F150. I have a Trail-Et New Yorker two horse straight load with a tack room up front. TW is between 550 and 650 pounds.

I should also note, I towed my horse trailer with a 2013 Ford Flex too.
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we think we have our search narrowed down to a V6 EB, 2013-2015, in a Lariat, Limited or Platinum trim.
Keep in mind, there's a big difference in payload from a 13/14 to a 2015. The aluminum bodied (2015+) trucks are lighters so they have higher payload (although it's partially offset by a slightly lower GVWR). If you find a 2013 or 2014 with the Max Tow package, it will payload closer to the 2015+ trucks. But if 5000# only going to be around 650# TW
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Hi all--I'm hoping to delve into the world of truck ownership soon. Doing a lot of research and we think we have our search narrowed down to a V6 EB, 2013-2015, in a Lariat, Limited or Platinum trim. Reason for this--the bells and whistles are nice and I'd really like to have the 4A option. This truck will mainly be a daily driver for me, but I want the ability to occasionally tow a small horse trailer in the next year or two.

In my research, it seems like the higher-end trims have less payload/towing capacity.....can someone give me a Cliff Notes version of why this is? I am doing as much reading as I can, but any help would be appreciated.

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My 2018 limited only had 1250 payload from the factory. Add a bed liner and a bed cover puts you down around 1150 left for people and trailer. My boat only has a 400 pound tongue weight but even still it leaves you with 750 for people and cargo. This makes it tough to use for utility as 4 adults and little bit of cargo is too much.

Keep in in mind the 2019 limited has less payload as the ho motor and the dual exhaust weigh more. If you want to tow make sure you give yourself some payload head room.
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I had to wait to get home to get the specs from the 2014 I had that pulled the same trailers I pull now. It had 1470 pounds payload. It was a Lariat 501a, anything higher in trim will have far less payload. You will want to stay to a Lariat 501a in the 13-14 years to have enough payload to tow what you are looking to tow, in 15+ you should be able to get a Platinum with enough payload. Stay away from LImited if you plan to tow.
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This is why my next truck will be an XLT and not a Lariat. I've had two Lariats, both suffered from low payload. Never again. Add a camper top, side steps, tow mirrors, and that payload keeps dropping even further. Realize the payload on the sticker on your door jam is based on how the truck left the factory. Everything added after that by the owner or the dealer just pushes the payload down, down, down!

I really get a kick out of the King Ranch. Well, its the "King" right, and designed for the "Ranch" right? Well it has pitiful payload rating. I read somewhere where Ford stated that 80% of their F150 owners tow at least sometimes with their trucks.

An old fashioned "Trailer Special" or "Towing Special" with the best payload, best trailer package, etc. would be a great addition to their product line.

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If I am going to tow something my Plat can't handle, then I will get a Superduty dedicated to just towing. My Plat handles what I have now, and plan to get later just fine. Reason is because I bought what the truck can handle, and didn't get stupid with the biggest glamper on the lot.
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Originally Posted by thrifty biil View Post

An old fashioned "Trailer Special" or "Towing Special" with the best payload, best trailer package, etc. would be a great addition to their product line.
They have that, it's a regular cab long bed 2WD XL /w the 3.5 EcoBoost. The issue is no one is going to buy that configuration even if it would be best for their usage. People want all the bells and whistles while also expecting the truck to tow the 13,000lbs Ford advertises in their commercials.

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Well, that and people usually have a family with at least one kid, so where they going to put the rest of the passengers? There are trailers out there light enough that most F150' can tow them, and still have plenty of room inside them for comfortable glamping. What surprises me, there are many that have the same floorplan, yet the weights are all over the place, I saw one like mine that weighed 9K pounds! Mine is 7600 GVWR and travel ready at 6400. And that heavy one was lacking cabinets that we have in ours!

When setup right any truck with ~1600 pounds payload can tow 7600-8300 GVWR trailer, but they have to be setup correctly and not have a lot of stuff in the cab and bed. With mine I have 400 pounds available hitched up and ready to travel, and if needed can pull the topper off to gain another 250 pounds. The key is setting it up so that the weight gets distributed fore and aft like it is supposed to be.
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