Towing Capacity and vehicle upgrades for towing
08-13-2016, 10:10 AM
#81
Could not do that with mine, bed is too short. 
08-13-2016, 11:15 AM
#82
08-13-2016, 01:32 PM
#83
Motor 10
Would someone please clarify, for me, my max tow rating. I have a 2016 Lariat screw, fx4, sport and special appearance package, with 20" tires. I have the 7000 lb. gvwr and 1907 max payload. I have a class IV hitch. And the 5.0 with 3.55 eloc. The dealer told me 5,100lbs. But everything I've read, says 9,000. What is it? If a picture of my door sticker is needed, I will include that as well. Thanks
08-13-2016, 06:37 PM
#84
Motor 10
Bump, pretty please?
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Bafflingbs (08-13-2016)
08-13-2016, 08:47 PM
#86
Motor 10
That's what I read. Wonder why he said 5,000? That doesn't even sound right. Anyway, thanks!
08-14-2016, 08:53 AM
#88
Towing Review
So this is my towing review after pulling a 6300 lb 28ft TT. The TT was an older Coachman. It weighed 6050 dry. We estimated that with the gear, tools, and other stuff aboard that it probably was near 6300 lbs. We used a no-name WD hitch w/out sway control, and towed the camper for roughly 60 miles. The tow terrain covered a variety of scenarios. We started inside a hilly, lake community which consisted of both gravel and paved roads, continued down a short stretch of hilly hwy driving, followed by a few miles of MO interstate, and back. Worth noting it was also a rainy day and the gravel lake roads were a muddy mess.
Set up. Truck weight with a full tank of gas 5838 lbs + Passenger weight of 770 lbs + WD Hitch 45 lbs + Tongue Weight Est. at (12%) 756 lb = GVW of 7409 [GVWR = 7350) over 59 lbs. GCW = 7409 lbs + 6300 = 12953 lbs / or 96% of. (GCWR = 13500). On the truck: Sway control was active, Trailer Brake Gain was set at 6, and it was in Tow/haul mode.
From the beginning... The travel trailer was parked on a pad at a 90 degree angle to the gravel drive, about 100 yards from the road, at a 6 degree grade. The truck was hooked up w/out the WD hitch and pulled the TT effortlessly out the hole. No spinning, and no mashing of the pedal. Once on the level road (still gravel) we installed the WD bars. The truck had minimal squat even without WD bars in place. In fact, the TT owner who weighed 240 lbs stood on top of the hitch and there was still minimal squatting. Pulling the TT out of the lake was smooth but not without challenge. There were several grades ranging from 5 degrees up to about 10 degrees that were all at awkward angles and mostly from dead stop turns. The truck did well. On a few hills I found myself mashing the throttle (1/2 to 3/4) in 2nd gear slowly ascending the hill. The truck did not downshift to 1st and we were accelerating reasonably up the grade. In the future, I will choose manual mode and likely use 1st gear. Worth noting the truck downshifted nicely on descents and I only used the trailer brakes twice on steeper grades. I was completely impressed with the engines compression braking. After reaching the hwy, I set the cruise at 65 mph. I started out only deleting 6th gear. In fifth gear the truck was maintaining speed at 2000 rpms. I chose to also delete 5th gear because the hwy consisted of moderately long hills between 4 and 6 degree grades. On the hills the transmission would downshift to accelerate and then up shift to 5th once the speed was attained causing a yo-yo type, lagging issue. I felt that deleting 5th gear made more sense, and completely improved the hill climbing. In forth gear at 60 mph we were pulling at 2500 to 3000 rpms. Trailer sway from passing trailers and semi's was minimal and barely felt. (definitely not white knuckle territory) After entering the interstate we increased our speed to 65 mph and I added back 5th gear with no problems. The truck pulled smoothly and maintained speed with cruise at all times. We followed the same route on our return trip.
Transmission Temp never rose above 208 degrees. Normal operating temp w/out a trailer is 188 degrees.
Overall, I was very surprised how well the truck did. It definitely exceeded my expectations in every way. I honestly did not think I was going to be able to pull the TT out from the driveway. I assumed I would get stuck once the TT tires came off the pad and landed in the rain ruts. I was very surprised that not only was the truck able to do it, but that it was done so effortlessly. With that said in a few situations I felt myself looking for more low end power. Without downshifts and higher rpms hill ascends and hwy on ramps were an issue. However, with a downshift and the motor revving between 3500 & 5500 rpms acceleration was quick, smooth, and more than available. I am more of lazy low rpm driver so it took some adjustment to get comfortable with the higher rpms. All in all, I believe the rating for this truck is grossly underrated. I did not feel that the vehicle was anywhere near max payload or capacity. I don't feel that I would want to pull 9,000 lbs with my setup, but between 6000 - 7500 I feel is completely safe and within the moderate working ability of the truck.
I asked the TT owner to give me his honest review of how the truck performed. He has pulled his TT with a variety of tow vehicles. His current tow vehicle is a 1 Ton Suburban with a 454. He stated that my truck pulled the TT better than his Suburban. The few hills that required more throttle than I'd like, he stated that in his Suburban he would "have it mashed to the floor". The F150 greatly exceeded his expectations. Based on the conversation with his wife I would not be surprised to see him buying one in the future.
Hopefully, this review helped someone. I know I have not been able to sleep since I bought my truck. Based on all the 5.0 bashing that happens on these forums I was afraid I made a huge mistake. I was nearly 100% positive I was going to return my truck inside the 30 day period. I would joke with friends that i bought a truck with a V-card. I would even explain to anyone who complimented the truck that yeah its nice but "its not a real truck". After my test pull, it is my opinion that most of what you read on forum boards are just that opinions. In most all cases it is simply guys hell bent on having a measuring contest. The information is unreliable at best, and a down right lie in most cases. Don't let internet opinions to cause you to lose sleep or hate you truck. In the real world of can I use my truck or not the 5.0 is very capable towing machine. Use common sense and tow within reason. A big thank you to everyone who took the time to comment on this board.
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farmall856 (08-16-2016)
08-14-2016, 09:04 AM
#89
Senior Member
I know I have not been able to sleep since I bought my truck. Based on all the 5.0 bashing that happens on these forums I was afraid I made a huge mistake. I was nearly 100% positive I was going to return my truck inside the 30 day period. I would joke with friends that i bought a truck with a V-card. I would even explain to anyone who complimented the truck that yeah its nice but "its not a real truck". After my test pull, it is my opinion that most of what you read on forum boards are just that opinions. In most all cases it is simply guys hell bent on having a measuring contest. The information is unreliable at best, and a down right lie in most cases. Don't let internet opinions to cause you to lose sleep or hate you truck. In the real world of can I use my truck or not the 5.0 is very capable towing machine. Use common sense and tow within reason. A big thank you to everyone who took the time to comment on this board.
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acanania (08-14-2016)
08-14-2016, 06:04 PM
#90
Truck = 2013 F150 XLT SCREW 5.0L w/ 3.55 L9 / R20' / HD tow package
So this is my towing review after pulling a 6300 lb 28ft TT. The TT was an older Coachman. It weighed 6050 dry. We estimated that with the gear, tools, and other stuff aboard that it probably was near 6300 lbs. We used a no-name WD hitch w/out sway control, and towed the camper for roughly 60 miles. The tow terrain covered a variety of scenarios. We started inside a hilly, lake community which consisted of both gravel and paved roads, continued down a short stretch of hilly hwy driving, followed by a few miles of MO interstate, and back. Worth noting it was also a rainy day and the gravel lake roads were a muddy mess.
Set up. Truck weight with a full tank of gas 5838 lbs + Passenger weight of 770 lbs + WD Hitch 45 lbs + Tongue Weight Est. at (12%) 756 lb = GVW of 7409 [GVWR = 7350) over 59 lbs. GCW = 7409 lbs + 6300 = 12953 lbs / or 96% of. (GCWR = 13500). On the truck: Sway control was active, Trailer Brake Gain was set at 6, and it was in Tow/haul mode.
From the beginning... The travel trailer was parked on a pad at a 90 degree angle to the gravel drive, about 100 yards from the road, at a 6 degree grade. The truck was hooked up w/out the WD hitch and pulled the TT effortlessly out the hole. No spinning, and no mashing of the pedal. Once on the level road (still gravel) we installed the WD bars. The truck had minimal squat even without WD bars in place. In fact, the TT owner who weighed 240 lbs stood on top of the hitch and there was still minimal squatting. Pulling the TT out of the lake was smooth but not without challenge. There were several grades ranging from 5 degrees up to about 10 degrees that were all at awkward angles and mostly from dead stop turns. The truck did well. On a few hills I found myself mashing the throttle (1/2 to 3/4) in 2nd gear slowly ascending the hill. The truck did not downshift to 1st and we were accelerating reasonably up the grade. In the future, I will choose manual mode and likely use 1st gear. Worth noting the truck downshifted nicely on descents and I only used the trailer brakes twice on steeper grades. I was completely impressed with the engines compression braking. After reaching the hwy, I set the cruise at 65 mph. I started out only deleting 6th gear. In fifth gear the truck was maintaining speed at 2000 rpms. I chose to also delete 5th gear because the hwy consisted of moderately long hills between 4 and 6 degree grades. On the hills the transmission would downshift to accelerate and then up shift to 5th once the speed was attained causing a yo-yo type, lagging issue. I felt that deleting 5th gear made more sense, and completely improved the hill climbing. In forth gear at 60 mph we were pulling at 2500 to 3000 rpms. Trailer sway from passing trailers and semi's was minimal and barely felt. (definitely not white knuckle territory) After entering the interstate we increased our speed to 65 mph and I added back 5th gear with no problems. The truck pulled smoothly and maintained speed with cruise at all times. We followed the same route on our return trip.
Transmission Temp never rose above 208 degrees. Normal operating temp w/out a trailer is 188 degrees.
Overall, I was very surprised how well the truck did. It definitely exceeded my expectations in every way. I honestly did not think I was going to be able to pull the TT out from the driveway. I assumed I would get stuck once the TT tires came off the pad and landed in the rain ruts. I was very surprised that not only was the truck able to do it, but that it was done so effortlessly. With that said in a few situations I felt myself looking for more low end power. Without downshifts and higher rpms hill ascends and hwy on ramps were an issue. However, with a downshift and the motor revving between 3500 & 5500 rpms acceleration was quick, smooth, and more than available. I am more of lazy low rpm driver so it took some adjustment to get comfortable with the higher rpms. All in all, I believe the rating for this truck is grossly underrated. I did not feel that the vehicle was anywhere near max payload or capacity. I don't feel that I would want to pull 9,000 lbs with my setup, but between 6000 - 7500 I feel is completely safe and within the moderate working ability of the truck.
I asked the TT owner to give me his honest review of how the truck performed. He has pulled his TT with a variety of tow vehicles. His current tow vehicle is a 1 Ton Suburban with a 454. He stated that my truck pulled the TT better than his Suburban. The few hills that required more throttle than I'd like, he stated that in his Suburban he would "have it mashed to the floor". The F150 greatly exceeded his expectations. Based on the conversation with his wife I would not be surprised to see him buying one in the future.
Hopefully, this review helped someone. I know I have not been able to sleep since I bought my truck. Based on all the 5.0 bashing that happens on these forums I was afraid I made a huge mistake. I was nearly 100% positive I was going to return my truck inside the 30 day period. I would joke with friends that i bought a truck with a V-card. I would even explain to anyone who complimented the truck that yeah its nice but "its not a real truck". After my test pull, it is my opinion that most of what you read on forum boards are just that opinions. In most all cases it is simply guys hell bent on having a measuring contest. The information is unreliable at best, and a down right lie in most cases. Don't let internet opinions to cause you to lose sleep or hate you truck. In the real world of can I use my truck or not the 5.0 is very capable towing machine. Use common sense and tow within reason. A big thank you to everyone who took the time to comment on this board.
So this is my towing review after pulling a 6300 lb 28ft TT. The TT was an older Coachman. It weighed 6050 dry. We estimated that with the gear, tools, and other stuff aboard that it probably was near 6300 lbs. We used a no-name WD hitch w/out sway control, and towed the camper for roughly 60 miles. The tow terrain covered a variety of scenarios. We started inside a hilly, lake community which consisted of both gravel and paved roads, continued down a short stretch of hilly hwy driving, followed by a few miles of MO interstate, and back. Worth noting it was also a rainy day and the gravel lake roads were a muddy mess.
Set up. Truck weight with a full tank of gas 5838 lbs + Passenger weight of 770 lbs + WD Hitch 45 lbs + Tongue Weight Est. at (12%) 756 lb = GVW of 7409 [GVWR = 7350) over 59 lbs. GCW = 7409 lbs + 6300 = 12953 lbs / or 96% of. (GCWR = 13500). On the truck: Sway control was active, Trailer Brake Gain was set at 6, and it was in Tow/haul mode.
From the beginning... The travel trailer was parked on a pad at a 90 degree angle to the gravel drive, about 100 yards from the road, at a 6 degree grade. The truck was hooked up w/out the WD hitch and pulled the TT effortlessly out the hole. No spinning, and no mashing of the pedal. Once on the level road (still gravel) we installed the WD bars. The truck had minimal squat even without WD bars in place. In fact, the TT owner who weighed 240 lbs stood on top of the hitch and there was still minimal squatting. Pulling the TT out of the lake was smooth but not without challenge. There were several grades ranging from 5 degrees up to about 10 degrees that were all at awkward angles and mostly from dead stop turns. The truck did well. On a few hills I found myself mashing the throttle (1/2 to 3/4) in 2nd gear slowly ascending the hill. The truck did not downshift to 1st and we were accelerating reasonably up the grade. In the future, I will choose manual mode and likely use 1st gear. Worth noting the truck downshifted nicely on descents and I only used the trailer brakes twice on steeper grades. I was completely impressed with the engines compression braking. After reaching the hwy, I set the cruise at 65 mph. I started out only deleting 6th gear. In fifth gear the truck was maintaining speed at 2000 rpms. I chose to also delete 5th gear because the hwy consisted of moderately long hills between 4 and 6 degree grades. On the hills the transmission would downshift to accelerate and then up shift to 5th once the speed was attained causing a yo-yo type, lagging issue. I felt that deleting 5th gear made more sense, and completely improved the hill climbing. In forth gear at 60 mph we were pulling at 2500 to 3000 rpms. Trailer sway from passing trailers and semi's was minimal and barely felt. (definitely not white knuckle territory) After entering the interstate we increased our speed to 65 mph and I added back 5th gear with no problems. The truck pulled smoothly and maintained speed with cruise at all times. We followed the same route on our return trip.
Transmission Temp never rose above 208 degrees. Normal operating temp w/out a trailer is 188 degrees.
Overall, I was very surprised how well the truck did. It definitely exceeded my expectations in every way. I honestly did not think I was going to be able to pull the TT out from the driveway. I assumed I would get stuck once the TT tires came off the pad and landed in the rain ruts. I was very surprised that not only was the truck able to do it, but that it was done so effortlessly. With that said in a few situations I felt myself looking for more low end power. Without downshifts and higher rpms hill ascends and hwy on ramps were an issue. However, with a downshift and the motor revving between 3500 & 5500 rpms acceleration was quick, smooth, and more than available. I am more of lazy low rpm driver so it took some adjustment to get comfortable with the higher rpms. All in all, I believe the rating for this truck is grossly underrated. I did not feel that the vehicle was anywhere near max payload or capacity. I don't feel that I would want to pull 9,000 lbs with my setup, but between 6000 - 7500 I feel is completely safe and within the moderate working ability of the truck.
I asked the TT owner to give me his honest review of how the truck performed. He has pulled his TT with a variety of tow vehicles. His current tow vehicle is a 1 Ton Suburban with a 454. He stated that my truck pulled the TT better than his Suburban. The few hills that required more throttle than I'd like, he stated that in his Suburban he would "have it mashed to the floor". The F150 greatly exceeded his expectations. Based on the conversation with his wife I would not be surprised to see him buying one in the future.
Hopefully, this review helped someone. I know I have not been able to sleep since I bought my truck. Based on all the 5.0 bashing that happens on these forums I was afraid I made a huge mistake. I was nearly 100% positive I was going to return my truck inside the 30 day period. I would joke with friends that i bought a truck with a V-card. I would even explain to anyone who complimented the truck that yeah its nice but "its not a real truck". After my test pull, it is my opinion that most of what you read on forum boards are just that opinions. In most all cases it is simply guys hell bent on having a measuring contest. The information is unreliable at best, and a down right lie in most cases. Don't let internet opinions to cause you to lose sleep or hate you truck. In the real world of can I use my truck or not the 5.0 is very capable towing machine. Use common sense and tow within reason. A big thank you to everyone who took the time to comment on this board.
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acanania (08-14-2016)