Towing in 2016: 3.5 Ecoboost vs 5.0 V-8
11-09-2017, 05:18 PM
#111
Mine does up to 125K miles, regardless of age. If you get the Gieco insurance when you first buy a new vehicle, you can lock in mechanical break down insurance for a few $ a month. A $200 or $250 deductible, don't remember which.
11-09-2017, 10:29 PM
#112
Senior Member
Interesting, I wonder if Canadian Insurance companies offer something similar.
11-10-2017, 04:49 PM
#113
Senior Member
Lesson to be learned here...the original poster asked which engine to buy, and I believe they now have a Super Duty because the 5.0L wasn't up to the task.
To put the thread back on topic, to me it would seem the 3.5L Ecoboost is the engine you want for towing.
Similar to the original poster, I bought a 28 foot bunkhouse (read 33 feet overall) and the Ecoboost tows it amazingly well.
With my Equalizer hitch properly setup, I don't have any sway issues and there is no white knuckle experience. I put it in cruise at 63MPH and let it go.
Depending on the wind, I may lock out 6th gear to keep the transmission from hunting.
The Ecoboost is a towing machine, and I really like my F150.
I am happy to see the new Super Duty's are finally redesigned. The old design was 17 years old and way over due. Hopefully the kinks are worked out of the 6.7L by now.
My dad's 6.7L needed a long block installed after the crankshaft bearing failed...out of warranty by 4 months....and only 109,000km (65,000miles).
To put the thread back on topic, to me it would seem the 3.5L Ecoboost is the engine you want for towing.
Similar to the original poster, I bought a 28 foot bunkhouse (read 33 feet overall) and the Ecoboost tows it amazingly well.
With my Equalizer hitch properly setup, I don't have any sway issues and there is no white knuckle experience. I put it in cruise at 63MPH and let it go.
Depending on the wind, I may lock out 6th gear to keep the transmission from hunting.
The Ecoboost is a towing machine, and I really like my F150.
I am happy to see the new Super Duty's are finally redesigned. The old design was 17 years old and way over due. Hopefully the kinks are worked out of the 6.7L by now.
My dad's 6.7L needed a long block installed after the crankshaft bearing failed...out of warranty by 4 months....and only 109,000km (65,000miles).
And yes, if you are going to tow in the 9,000lb+ range with an F150, the right engine is the EB but an F250 is a better solution.
11-11-2017, 10:51 AM
#114
Agreed, though at low altitude the 5.0 is more than capable of towing it as well, the EB has the advantage going up into the mountains and higher elevations.
11-11-2017, 07:56 PM
#115
Senior Member
I'm glad that you could get your shot at the 5.0 in but if you read his post about switching to the SuperDuty, it listed a host of conditions that he felt the SuperDuty would handle better and it seemed only one complaint about the 5.0 downshifting (and I bet if the other issues did not exist he probably would have been fine with it). Yes, the EB tows great but that does not mean that the 5.0 is not up to the task of towing fairly heavy. In the end, it seemed to me that he felt the F150 platform was not up to the task (otherwise he could have just traded for an EB...but he didn't.)
And yes, if you are going to tow in the 9,000lb+ range with an F150, the right engine is the EB but an F250 is a better solution.
And yes, if you are going to tow in the 9,000lb+ range with an F150, the right engine is the EB but an F250 is a better solution.
I did notice that he felt more comfortable with the handling of a heavier truck, but there was also the comment about screaming up hills in 2nd gear at 55MPH. I only noticed it, because I tow a similar trailers (6700lbs dry and 8000 GVWR) and I don't think I've gone below 4th gear towing mountains.
The thread titled "Towing in 2016 3.5 Ecoboost vs. 5.0 V-8", just brings me back to thinking that when he was thinking about towing upwards of 8000lbs, the Ecoboost was the right choice.
Obviously the 5.0L has its place, many people love the old school V-8. That's why there's a choice.
11-12-2017, 12:40 PM
#116
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To put the thread back on topic, to me it would seem the 3.5L Ecoboost is the engine you want for towing.
Both engines are capable tow motors and consume fuel at similar rates under load... and at near-peak torque rpm for either engine, one is no more stressed than the other.
The simple fact of the Eco's higher torque output (and potentially-higher CAFE numbers when the truck is unhooked) is why it is the only engine offered with the Max Tow option.
11-15-2017, 08:47 AM
#117
Senior Member
In 2014, both the EB and 5.0L were availible with the Heavy Duty Performance Package, and included the Max Tow pkg.
It really comes down to what engine RPM you'd like to tow. It's that simple, when the subjectivity of the (new-school Coyote) 5.0's aural supremacy vs. the Eco's low-rpm artificially-aspirated but superior grunt is removed from the discussion.
Both engines are capable tow motors and consume fuel at similar rates under load... and at near-peak torque rpm for either engine, one is no more stressed than the other.
The simple fact of the Eco's higher torque output (and potentially-higher CAFE numbers when the truck is unhooked) is why it is the only engine offered with the Max Tow option.
Both engines are capable tow motors and consume fuel at similar rates under load... and at near-peak torque rpm for either engine, one is no more stressed than the other.
The simple fact of the Eco's higher torque output (and potentially-higher CAFE numbers when the truck is unhooked) is why it is the only engine offered with the Max Tow option.
11-15-2017, 05:24 PM
#118
They could both get the HD Payload package, but Only the 6.2 and ecoboost had the max tow package back then, and only the ecoboost has it now. Max tow was not automatically associated with HDPP.
11-16-2017, 09:25 PM
#119
I tow a 27 ft NZ Sportsman 5th wheel with a 2011 Screw 6.5 bed 5.0 and 3.55 gears. I'd love to have 3.73s and the max payload pkg. It's a shame hardly any dealers stock one. To me a Screw with a 6.5 ft bed and maxtow/payload would be the ticket and would ride much better than a 250.
07-09-2020, 10:22 AM
#120
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2015 Lariat Max Tow Question
I just bought a 2015 Lariat FX4 with Max Tow. That was one of my criteria for towing around the farm, house and a camper. The sticker states Max Tow but also states that it has a 23 gal fuel tank. Is that common on the Super-crew 5.5ft box trucks? Did someone order the Max Tow package but only wanted to carry 23 gallons of fuel with them?