ccoles

we'll continue to shop...thanks for the info.

ccoles

So, we found a TT 28 feet.
Dry 5396
Loaded capacity 2150
Hitch 695.


I'll leave the wife and kids home and take the fly fishing rod instead. Should be good with the payload then...lol

ccoles

I thought a WDH transferred weight to the rear axle of the trailer, thus elevating some weight off the hitch weight.

zx12-iowa

Others will says no. I would say you are ok. I tow rigs with 1k tongue weight often and load my bed with 2500 lbs, and yet I lived. Lol.

custm2500

Rated capacities are for ford to help cover it's ***. If people followed the recommended towing capacity of there car or truck everyone would drive a 1 ton. The best thing to do with a "towing chart" is to wipe you butt when you are in the woods!


Anytime you are towing anything more then a bag of groceries in the bed helper bags are the number one thing you buy before a trailer! They make a world of difference and eliminate any concern of hauling a heavy load safely. As long as the trailer has brakes on it of course!


Throw some helper bags and a trailer brake controller and you will have zero issues hauling the first trailer! Make sure to put 50-60 psi in the rear tires and go. I give the range because if you are going to do much driving when you get to your campsite(no trailer of coarse) 50 will be a good compromise of towing and keeping fuel economy and not killing the ride when "empty."


Now you "towing chart" lovers can get pissed all you want but this is real world stuff not some nerdy engineer telling you what he thinks is best. If people listened to the crap in this thread 90% of pull behinds wouldn't be going down the road!

ccoles

I'm not worried about the trucks ability to tow the trailer. It can and then some...I just think ford has under rated the towing ability on their towing chart. For legal reasons or warranty reasons or whatever it may be, good for them, and rightfully so. Look at the diff ratio 373 vs 355. Can someone honestly tell me that with the exact same truck with 373 can pull 1600 pounds more and the 355 can not???

zx12-iowa

Actually on a 5.0, there is a difference due to the engine design. The ecoboost has a lower flatter torque curve so not much if any difference in rear gear. Same as a diesel - look at those tow ratings and you will see the same conclusion.

Now payload should be close to same.

brulaz

Correct, as well as returning weigh to the front axle. The average return to the trailer is about 20% of tongue weight, I've heard, but, in my case, only 12-13%.

custm2500

It is more about efficiency I am sure then ability. I don't know ford's packages but the 3.73 might come with heavier rear spring or something along those lines also.

raisin

Part of the tongue weight will go to the truck front tires and part will go to the trailer tires with WDH. Just like when you raise the handles of wheel barrow. Part goes to the front tire and part goes to your legs.

You could pull up your WDH bars so much you would lose rear wheel traction. Years ago GM showed this by hooking Olds Tornado to trailer with WDH, taking car rear wheels off and driving down the road (just for pictures).

When you do get truck load it and the trailer as for trip. Go to truck scales and weight it hooked up. Only truck on scale, only trailer on scale. Then unhook and weigh truck alone. Put these figures in truck and trailer and you will always have it.