Aragorn

Those ratings are put in place for a reason, and that reason is safety. Sure you can overload the truck and pull a gargantuan trailer with tons of stuff in it but all it takes is one little mistake: Slightly overloaded crashed

Can you do it? Sure
Will you get in a horrific accident? hard to say
Will it tear your truck up over time? Depends on how often you do it
Is it a good idea? This is your family, and the families of everyone you hit when you lose control
Are we a bunch of cowards because we won't stand up and overload our trucks? Hell no, it's far more adult to use the guidelines that are put in place for safety.
Can they support more than is recommended? Definitely, the reason being is that gives a margin of error as well as additional safety

Your kid is 7 now, by the time he reaches 10 he will most likely gain at least 20-30 lbs of weight and height. Unless you are going to throw out all his toys and games and stuff he'll keep gathering stuff.

Pmr8519

I agree with what you said. I really appreciate the opinion the person gave me. But safety is a concern for me and I would not want to go over any recommended limits either the trailer or truck. I would not like to be the person who either hurts someone in my family or others just because I wanted to overload my vehicle or trailer
That's why I am taking advice gathering information to make the right decision. Most likely I will end up moving to a 250 series.

I don't know if I have mentioned it but I found a few ecoboost with both HDP and Max towing package all 3.5L TT engines, not the 2.7L TT engine.

Shaggy1970

I wish people would read english! I said that, that specific trailer will be fine with a 150 with Max Tow Package! I probably know more about the numbers and what goes into them then anyone on these forums! Please get educated in how the numbers are derived, what the limiting factor is and tow with knowledge and confidence that your fine!

charles_slc

New or used?

I'd be surprised if new, the HDPP is very much a unicorn. You don't usually find it on a dealer's lot. Though there's a thread about a guy finding one down in Texas.

If used, I'd be willing to be they don't actually have the HDPP. I personally have checked out 3 different trucks advertised as "with heavy duty payload" and none of them actually have the HDPP.

smokeywren

The OP said the trailer could weigh up to 9,000 pounds and perhaps be towed with a 2014 F-150.


My 2012 F-150 is overloaded with my small TT that grosses less than 5,000 pounds when wet and loaded on the road. Just me and DW, no rug rats.


So in order for his F-150 to be "fine", he would have to not load his F-150 very heavy at all. With a 9,000-pound TT weight, his tongue weight will be around1,100 to 1,200 pounds. So in order to be "fine" his payload capacity available for hitch weight should be over 1,100 pounds, and preferably over 1,200 pounds. Does his truck have that much payload capacity available for hitch weight? I don't know, and neither does anyone else until he weighs his wet and loaded truck.

Shaggy1970

I appears as though your skimmed over the sticker of the Trailer he is Buying, sheriff! UVW 5913 and GVWR 7980, with a tongue weight of 713 dry. Go back and study up on what the numbers mean.

charles_slc

dry tongue weight means nothing...

10-15% of GVWR would be 798-1197#

Sure, he might not max out the trailer, but given that's he's going to be full timing it...that's not a bet I would take.

And sure, he might be able to keep it at 10% TW....but for sizing, I'd be looking at the max recommended TW.

So yeah, 1200# is a nice round number for needed payload just for the trailer TW.

4.30Screw

Remember back before forums like this existed? I used to over pull with my 2001 all the time before I found this site and educated myself. Perhaps that's why I burnt up the transmission....Maybe that's why I bagged out my leaf springs and had to upgrade, I wonder if pulling that bobcat 900miles a few times had something to do with the engine problems I experienced years later........Who knows
The point is that I didn't fallow the rules and look what it got me, a bagged out truck at 80k miles that has been sitting in my pasture for 7 or 8 years now...Just rotting away
On the other side of things the twin to that truck bought within 2 months of the first truck was driven by my wife for the first 7-8 years of its life and it didn't see the abuse that the first one did...That one is still going after 200k miles and is just retired to around the farm work as it's burning oil and a little tired. (Id still drive it coast to coast) But that goes to show you how maxing out a truck pounds nails in its coffin, and fallowing the ruels gets you a 17+ year relationship with a hard working truck.

dlbb

https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...F150_Specs.pdf


that is the pdf for 2014 specs. make sure the used truck has 7 lug rims. that means it is a heavy duty. take it to a scale with full tank of fuel and the family in it. the gvw is 8200 with the hdpp and max tow. mine weighed in at 6200 like that. and i wasn't in the truck. that leaves about 1850 for hitch weight and cargo. the trailer cap is rated at 11300 with the hdpp and max tow. gcw is 17100. long story short i wouldn't hesitate to pull a 9k loaded trailer with a wdh with my truck.

we are planing to get one of these in the next year or so. https://www.livinlite.com/products/q...8.5x26FBR.html