Tow 10Klbs with F150 5.4L - Need HP
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The 7.3 was one of the best. My dad looked at the 6.0 and later on the 6.4 ...and walked away from two fully loaded F250 Lariats. The two engines he liked at the time he was getting a new truck was the CR 5.9 and the LBZ. He liked the Dodge options better. A friend of his bought a 6.4 a few years ago and was amazed to find out that the 5.9 with a 4-spd was easily out accelerating his 6.4 when they both had about 8,000 lb behind them.
I've driven most of the diesels of the last two decades: 7.3 IDI, 7.3, 6.0, 6.7 Scorpion, 12-valve B5.9 (with 1.36 million miles), CR B5.9, B6.7, B6.7 HO (418 hp/950 lb-ft), LB7, LLY, and LBZ. I have not yet had a chance to drive the LMM or LML nor the B5.9 ISB (original 24 valve) or any of the Detroits (I hear those don't compare to anything). So far the LBZ and CR B5.9 are my favorites.
I will say the thing I do like about the D-max 6.6's. You can up grade the LB7 and LLY to the LBZ with a LBZ tune, LLY/LBZ turbo, LLY/LBZ heads and a reluctor ring.
I've driven most of the diesels of the last two decades: 7.3 IDI, 7.3, 6.0, 6.7 Scorpion, 12-valve B5.9 (with 1.36 million miles), CR B5.9, B6.7, B6.7 HO (418 hp/950 lb-ft), LB7, LLY, and LBZ. I have not yet had a chance to drive the LMM or LML nor the B5.9 ISB (original 24 valve) or any of the Detroits (I hear those don't compare to anything). So far the LBZ and CR B5.9 are my favorites.
I will say the thing I do like about the D-max 6.6's. You can up grade the LB7 and LLY to the LBZ with a LBZ tune, LLY/LBZ turbo, LLY/LBZ heads and a reluctor ring.
#33
I just sold a 6.0 dually 05 to down size to F150. Bought it new and pulled 3 different 5th wheels with it. Never had any problems with it. I've read all kinds of stuff online about them, but don't know anyone that has really had much trouble with one. Good luck with yours.
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Personally I wouldn't even get a 7.3. I'd find a Fleet model SD that has a 5.9 Cummins in it or one that has had the 7.3/5.4 swapped for a 5.9 or even a junkyard truck with a blown engine and do the 5.9 swap. IMO the 5.9 is a much more economical engine. Most 12 valve guys (whether its a stock Dodge or Ford Cummins) see about 19-21 mpg and you can nearly double hp and torque on the stock 12 valves for under $1000. Most 24 valve guys see (again stock Dodge or Ford Cummins) between 22-28 mpg depending on tune, engine (common rail or not), and driving habits when unloaded and are nearly as cheap to upgrade. Just my suggestion though.
www.fordcummins.com
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I'd honestly go diesel. 94.5-97 for the old body style 7.3. 99-Early 03 for new. Stay away from the 03 6.0 and stay away from the 6.4L in general.
EDIT: Didn't see that you purchased one already. Look into a Edge power ship, or possibly even a SCT 6 Position. Do a EGR Delete. If it came with aluminum exhaust, replace it with stainless. You'll like the sound much more and the longetivity of it. Maybe even head studs. Not sure about an 06.
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#35
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Stock LB7s are making about 25-26mpg. Tuned LBZ's can make that with the right modifications. Haven't yet met anyone who has a 7.3 that can break 20. Like to see it. Hit me up if you ever wander into the Lubbock area.
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I'm super late to this thread, but I just wanted to add that it's not always about getting the trailer moving, but stopping it. Saw a guy with an F-350 pulling a relatively small piece of Caterpillar machinery lock up the brakes trying to stop from 40 mph. I stopped in time to watch him slide, tires smoking and screaming, clear through the intersection.
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I'm super late to this thread, but I just wanted to add that it's not always about getting the trailer moving, but stopping it. Saw a guy with an F-350 pulling a relatively small piece of Caterpillar machinery lock up the brakes trying to stop from 40 mph. I stopped in time to watch him slide, tires smoking and screaming, clear through the intersection.
Swayze-"A load this heavy will just fry the brakes."
Casseus-"What happens if you need to stop in a hurry?"
Swayze-"You don't."
Getting a load started is one thing, getting it stopped takes a little more effort. Really have to know what your doing when you venture in to above the towed vehicle ratings.
#38
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I don't know the laws, but I feel like that's probably illegal on some level. DEFINITELY a safety hazard...
Man I pulled 11k with a chipped F-450 and that wasn't exactly simple. Made me feel like a train. May or may not have been 17 years old at the time...
Man I pulled 11k with a chipped F-450 and that wasn't exactly simple. Made me feel like a train. May or may not have been 17 years old at the time...
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Generally illegal...if you get caught and weighed (which is that really gonna happen, not likely). I will say this, I have done 30,000 lb with a LB7 and LBZ Duramax (3/4 tons). They don't like it, but they will do it. Also done it with a stock 12 valve, they really don't like that.
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The common rail 5.9s will do it without a tune. My dad's is stock, I've driven it from Kyle, Texas to Westcliffe, CO (845 miles...look it up) on a single tank of diesel with an 1/8th to spare. To measure out inconsistancies, we will say it burned closer to 31 gallons versus the actual 30.3 gallons. Still 27 mpg.
As for the 6.0, I think that people think they're horrible because people with problems rant about them on the internet. You don't see many people posting about how awesome their truck it. Most posts on any forum are about problem. OP, I think you'll love your new Stroker!