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Old 09-22-2018, 01:23 AM
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So I have had quite a few trucks and camper combos, I camp maybe 6-10 times a year and most of the time 95% is 55 mph or less. I have a 2017 Coleman 262bh that weighs 5700 dry and maybe 6500-7000 loaded. I also tow my side by side (1000 pounds) on a 6x10 trailer behind the camper. I had a 2012 Powerstroke that was amazing but it sat most of the time so I sold it (to get out of payments and emissions were coming up and it was deleted and tuned) and bought a 2000 f350 v10. This truck also sits most of the time but it’s paid off. It does okay towing, gets the job done, up the mountain passes at 45. I have a 2016 Camaro SS(not paid off ~400 a month) I’m thinking of downsizing the fleet by selling the Camaro and the f350 and going back to daily driving a truck. Would also more than likely save on insurance. So my question is, how well can the new 10 speed ecoboost trucks tow 9000 pounds or so 6ish times a year? If we go far, more than 75 miles I don’t take the side by side. I have a husky solid bar hitch that does well (just like the equalizer). I’ll add pics of the setup below.







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Possible truck of interest. I realize I’ll be close if not slightly over on payload, but can add air bags if necessary (I know that doesn’t increase actual payload but helps to stabilize in my experience). Only mods to the truck would be a 2 inch level and 17s with 285 70 17 tires. Would the tail wag the dog or would I possibly be okay? Anyone towing a similar setup? (Yes it’s legal where I live as well if anyone was wondering.). Sorry for the lengthy post.


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that truck won't have enough payload.

You're going to need a F150 with the heavy duty payload package for the tongue weight at minimum. I know double towing is legal where you are....but that being the case i'd want as much mass at the front (truck) as I could manage, and a F150 ain't it.
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The tail will wag in wind and when vans or bigger pass you in certain instances. Can’t say what will happen when the front gets jacked up, but the HD truck is a better machine. I tow a 7500 pound TT with mine and know from experience. I’d have been better off with a used HD truck.
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I have a HDPP F-150 and a F-250 SD. The HDPP has slightly higher payload capacity. But if I was towing your setup, I'd use the F-250. It would be more stable on the road with that tow load.
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Thanks fellas. I figured that would be what was said. The 95% of time towing is on 2 lane mountain roads, very minimal highway driving. Maybe 15 miles from my house to the turnoff to head to the mountains. Another option is to do the rear add a leaf that auto spring offers which would increase payload by 900 I believe they state. I would still have the issue of the tow vehicle not being as heavy as the load. Have to sell the car before I decide what will be happening anyways but I’ll let you guys know. A coworker has the same f150 as I’m interested in so maybe I’ll see if he will let me try it out for a tow.
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Thanks fellas. I figured that would be what was said. The 95% of time towing is on 2 lane mountain roads, very minimal highway driving. Maybe 15 miles from my house to the turnoff to head to the mountains. Another option is to do the rear add a leaf that auto spring offers which would increase payload by 900 I believe they state. I would still have the issue of the tow vehicle not being as heavy as the load. Have to sell the car before I decide what will be happening anyways but I’ll let you guys know. A coworker has the same f150 as I’m interested in so maybe I’ll see if he will let me try it out for a tow.
Nothing can increase your payload. Your frame have it-s limits, the axle also. ( the Hdpp have bigger frame except for the 164 in superb and 8 ft box, bigger axle and suspension one more leaf spring etc...) The only way to increase is to have a HDPP on your F150. On my F150 XLT, HDPP supercab , my payload is 2603 pounds. Rear r axle that can handle 4800 pounds, so be aware even if you put 10 more leaf spring, it will not increase your payload by one pound, it will stiffen the rear end without increasing the payload. Good luck but take good advise before adding the extra leaf spring.
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Are the axle ratings still 4000 pounds for the rear. On my old 06 that’s what it was. If that’s the case you’ll definitely hit your payload max before your axle max. Either way, the aal helps it “feel” more sturdy if as you say it doesn’t technically increase your payload.
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I have a 274BH and tow it with an 18 Platinum, and the 262BH is pretty much the same trailer but with the slideout. An F150 will tow it with ease, however, towing it and another trailer behind it might be a bit more than it should tow in the handling department. It will have the power to tow, but I think the lighter truck up front compared to the Superduty will be quite noticeable.

What did you do the the bumper on the trailer in order to tow behind it? I know the bumper on mine would get yanked off if I tried that.


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