So many 1/2 tons towing 5th wheels
#32
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As a retired firefighter/EMT, it disappoints me to see statements like, "just pull over if you see an overloaded combo, what business is it yours?"
that kind of statement comes from someone who's never been a 1st responder.
we see all kinds of accidents where the driver exceeded their vehicle's capabilities and it results in deaths or injuries to innocent people. An overloaded combo is no different than someone driving impaired or at high speed. There's a higher percentage of something going wrong.
So, because of MY experiences, I'm a card carrying member of the weight police and proud of it.
that kind of statement comes from someone who's never been a 1st responder.
we see all kinds of accidents where the driver exceeded their vehicle's capabilities and it results in deaths or injuries to innocent people. An overloaded combo is no different than someone driving impaired or at high speed. There's a higher percentage of something going wrong.
So, because of MY experiences, I'm a card carrying member of the weight police and proud of it.
#33
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As a retired firefighter/EMT, it disappoints me to see statements like, "just pull over if you see an overloaded combo, what business is it yours?"
that kind of statement comes from someone who's never been a 1st responder.
we see all kinds of accidents where the driver exceeded their vehicle's capabilities and it results in deaths or injuries to innocent people. An overloaded combo is no different than someone driving impaired or at high speed. There's a higher percentage of something going wrong.
So, because of MY experiences, I'm a card carrying member of the weight police and proud of it.
that kind of statement comes from someone who's never been a 1st responder.
we see all kinds of accidents where the driver exceeded their vehicle's capabilities and it results in deaths or injuries to innocent people. An overloaded combo is no different than someone driving impaired or at high speed. There's a higher percentage of something going wrong.
So, because of MY experiences, I'm a card carrying member of the weight police and proud of it.
#34
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The problem here is everyone's assuming a truck is overloaded simply because it's pulling a 5th wheel, I never stated ONE single time to do anything other than follow safety guidelines as issued per Ford. I never said anything about weight or load OTHER THAN to follow Ford's guidelines.
Ron White sure was right he said it can't be fixed and it's forever. I sure wish I had the ability to look at a trucks load and determine it's over weight, ya'll must be some kind of psychic.
For those that wish to put words in my mouth,... well you know what you can do.
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Ron White sure was right he said it can't be fixed and it's forever. I sure wish I had the ability to look at a trucks load and determine it's over weight, ya'll must be some kind of psychic.
For those that wish to put words in my mouth,... well you know what you can do.
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#35
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The problem here is everyone's assuming a truck is overloaded simply because it's pulling a 5th wheel, I never stated ONE single time to do anything other than follow safety guidelines as issued per Ford. I never said anything about weight or load OTHER THAN to follow Ford's guidelines.
Ron White sure was right he said it can't be fixed and it's forever. I sure wish I had the ability to look at a trucks load and determine it's over weight, ya'll must be some kind of psychic.
For those that wish to put words in my mouth,... well you know what you can do.
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Ron White sure was right he said it can't be fixed and it's forever. I sure wish I had the ability to look at a trucks load and determine it's over weight, ya'll must be some kind of psychic.
For those that wish to put words in my mouth,... well you know what you can do.
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It was you who came in here saying everyone is ignorant, when it fact it was you who not only put words in people's mouths, but then went even further posting partial stats on trailer weights when payload is just as important, and probably the most important rating when towing. Your ignorance of payload requirements makes you both ignorant, and a hypocrite for calling people here ignorant in the first place. But you just keep coming back and making an *** of yourself... just give it up man, the damage is done.
#36
The problem here is everyone's assuming a truck is overloaded simply because it's pulling a 5th wheel, I never stated ONE single time to do anything other than follow safety guidelines as issued per Ford. I never said anything about weight or load OTHER THAN to follow Ford's guidelines.
Ron White sure was right he said it can't be fixed and it's forever. I sure wish I had the ability to look at a trucks load and determine it's over weight, ya'll must be some kind of psychic.
For those that wish to put words in my mouth,... well you know what you can do.
.
Ron White sure was right he said it can't be fixed and it's forever. I sure wish I had the ability to look at a trucks load and determine it's over weight, ya'll must be some kind of psychic.
For those that wish to put words in my mouth,... well you know what you can do.
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#37
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Shockingly I did find one that may work, but it certainly wasn't what I had in mind!
https://www.scamptrailers.com/showro...pped_rev_1_744
Had I only looked at the brochure and read the door sticker I would have been WWAAYY over on weight! Marketing materials and salesmen are all well and good, but the only way to really tell is to weight that puppy!
https://www.scamptrailers.com/showro...pped_rev_1_744
Had I only looked at the brochure and read the door sticker I would have been WWAAYY over on weight! Marketing materials and salesmen are all well and good, but the only way to really tell is to weight that puppy!
I got my gooseneck on CL used, smallest one I could find, 24'. Only thing I've ever towed. Used it as my home for 5-6 months total for two winters.
My take on this thread's comments is the grossly overloaded trucks be they pulling a 5er or bumper. A few hundred pounds over likely isn't dangerous, whereas a few thousand over is scary. Lots of those scary tows on the road.
#38
Senior Member
Interesting link. While the Scamper lists the tongue weight, it neither shows the dry nor wet weight of the camper. Also the 12 gal water tank is a joke. Lucky to get one shower. So for 4-people you'd have to camp with a water hookup, assuming it had a hot water heater.
I got my gooseneck on CL used, smallest one I could find, 24'. Only thing I've ever towed. Used it as my home for 5-6 months total for two winters.
My take on this thread's comments is the grossly overloaded trucks be they pulling a 5er or bumper. A few hundred pounds over likely isn't dangerous, whereas a few thousand over is scary. Lots of those scary tows on the road.
I got my gooseneck on CL used, smallest one I could find, 24'. Only thing I've ever towed. Used it as my home for 5-6 months total for two winters.
My take on this thread's comments is the grossly overloaded trucks be they pulling a 5er or bumper. A few hundred pounds over likely isn't dangerous, whereas a few thousand over is scary. Lots of those scary tows on the road.
Last edited by duck9191; 08-09-2018 at 05:26 PM.
#39
Junior Member
Interesting link. While the Scamper lists the tongue weight, it neither shows the dry nor wet weight of the camper. Also the 12 gal water tank is a joke. Lucky to get one shower. So for 4-people you'd have to camp with a water hookup, assuming it had a hot water heater.
I got my gooseneck on CL used, smallest one I could find, 24'. Only thing I've ever towed. Used it as my home for 5-6 months total for two winters.
My take on this thread's comments is the grossly overloaded trucks be they pulling a 5er or bumper. A few hundred pounds over likely isn't dangerous, whereas a few thousand over is scary. Lots of those scary tows on the road.
I got my gooseneck on CL used, smallest one I could find, 24'. Only thing I've ever towed. Used it as my home for 5-6 months total for two winters.
My take on this thread's comments is the grossly overloaded trucks be they pulling a 5er or bumper. A few hundred pounds over likely isn't dangerous, whereas a few thousand over is scary. Lots of those scary tows on the road.
I will have to look at goosenecks. I don’t typically travel with all 5 of us, and could definitely move some of the weight to the trailer. I have a 24’ bumper pull that I load up right and kiss the payload numbers. Does a gooseneck pull better than a bumper? Isn’t it the same idea (a ball)? Or does carrying the weight over the axle make it more stable?
#40
Junior Member
Interesting link. While the Scamper lists the tongue weight, it neither shows the dry nor wet weight of the camper. Also the 12 gal water tank is a joke. Lucky to get one shower. So for 4-people you'd have to camp with a water hookup, assuming it had a hot water heater.
I got my gooseneck on CL used, smallest one I could find, 24'. Only thing I've ever towed. Used it as my home for 5-6 months total for two winters.
My take on this thread's comments is the grossly overloaded trucks be they pulling a 5er or bumper. A few hundred pounds over likely isn't dangerous, whereas a few thousand over is scary. Lots of those scary tows on the road.
I got my gooseneck on CL used, smallest one I could find, 24'. Only thing I've ever towed. Used it as my home for 5-6 months total for two winters.
My take on this thread's comments is the grossly overloaded trucks be they pulling a 5er or bumper. A few hundred pounds over likely isn't dangerous, whereas a few thousand over is scary. Lots of those scary tows on the road.