flixden

Really?

magblue10

How isn't it enough? It should be unless it has a very heavy tongue weight. You might also consider since you are new to campers a 28 ft or so with a slide and bunkhouse. The EB or the 250 can tow the 35 ft TT but even 50 or 100 miles that is a big *** TT to pull every weekend IMO. Take your time w your choice of TT and good luck

personwithatruck

You're going to have to take the time and energy to run the numbers, or risk making a financially stupid decision based on gut instinct. No two ways about it. If the extra 10-20K of initial invoice and maintenance differential doesn't mean much to you, just get the diesel and be done with it. If it does mean something to you, find out exactly what camper you want, how much it weighs, and run the payload numbers.

Ford adapted to more stringent payload/towing third party regulations a few years ahead of schedule (starting with 2013 models, independent testing is an industry standard). If Ford says the payload is 2000 pounds, pushing it to the limits is no problem at all.

10 years ago if you pushed the listed capacities with consistency you'd be crazy and irresponsible imo. Ford and everyone in the industry pulled the numbers straight from the depths of their collective anus's (anii?). Now, not so.

Are you going camping in the mountains? The ecoboost barely loses at 8K feet. The 6.2 feels like a completely different engine up there. It loses about 25% of its' power, and from experience you notice it- and more importantly, the tranny notices it in tow mode.

Empty braking distance and emergency maneuvering is absolutely terrible in the heavy duty trucks, and the F150 handles well for a live rear axle. Check out this video to get an idea of what the unloaded Super Duty does in an emergency:

flixden

I believe the new regulations cover towing capacity only, not payload. No?

Where have you heard that Ford adopted these standards ahead of time (the new towing standards)? I though it was Toyota who did that.

2002silverex

Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather have the ecoboost over the 250 for its daily driver aspect looks coolness of the twin turbo ect... I just don't want to have to limit what I buy for a camper based on my
Trucks capabilities. I guess we will have to decide exactly which camper we want and go from
There.
The one we are pretty sure on is a 2012 prime time tracer. It's 34.0 feet long, 10'10" high. Hitch is 687 pounds. It's shipped dry weight is 6750 pounds.
Respectively with people in the truck and gear I'm sure you can add another thousand pounds to that?

magblue10

From the weights your describing you would be ok w max tow and HD package. If the tongue is there then you would add battery and propane so say 800 then you and kid wife and dog so add 500 now 1300 still well under your payload. Most of your gear is in the TT itself except maybe 2-300 lbs ie grill, bikes, possibly a stroller. To me it seems you will have a payload of about 1600 and if you took a lot of stuff 8000 lb TT. That is all within the 150 your looking at buying. It would be over on payload if you had my fx4 by about 200 lbs or so but to be honest I wouldn't not tow it with my truck. These are just my opinions

2002silverex

Id like to go the f150 route for the 95% of time that im not towing as the truck is also my DD. We'll see when i pick out a tt and see the exact specs.

Thanks for your guys help!

Is there a programmer out for the ecoboost yet? One specifically for towing?

IronJoce

I'm gonna tell you something else... I Wouldn't get a 35ft TT if I was planning on moving this thing every weekend. This has nothing to do with the truck, payload tow rating etc... It is just a lllllooooooonnnnnnnnggggggggg trailer that is not very practical when it's time to park.

Just my opinion based on my experience

As for the trailer you are looking for, since it has a 687lbs tongue weight you can tow this with any F150 with MaxTow. So for sure if you get the HD payload you'll be ok.

2002silverex

Pulled the trigger yesterday on 2012 keystone outback 312bh. 7500 pounds dry 35'6"
I will be towing with my work truck until I get a new ecoboost or f250. Work truck is a 2011 gmc 1ton dually. Will tow fine but not practical as there is no back seat... I will see how that truck tows it and decide if I need a 250 or ecoboost. Thank you all for the help!

RRF150

Congrats on the new TT. I really hope you go the route of the F250. Lots to consider on a tow vehicle. I tow 7200lbs loaded @31' long with a 2010 F150 maxtow 3.73's Screw 5.5 bed. WB is 145". I would not want 5-1/2' more back there with the 145" WB. Also your 7500lbs dry will more than likely turn into 8500lbs loaded. Seems like a lot to put 1000lbs into a TT, but it's crazy how all the little things add up. With an 8500lb TT your tongue weight will end up being close to a 1000lbs with propane, batteries and stuff in the front cargo bay and also the 100lbs for the WD hitch. Probably more like 1100lbs. Now add the weight of everybody traveling and what other gear you'll put into the truck and you are out of the maxtow range and need to get into the HD package range, that will give you 22-2300lbs for payload. By going to an F250 you'll not only get more stability but payload as well. That 1 ton will spoil you. Happy camping. An F250 Crewcab with 6.5 box would be a great tow rig. Room for everyone and very stable.