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3.2.2 Tow-vehicles at 8500 lb or Greater GVWR
TVTW is base vehicle curb weight plus one 68.0 kg (150 lb) driver and one 68.0 kg (150 lb) front seat passenger plus 45.4 kg (100 lb) of optional equipment split evenly between front and rear axles plus the tow-vehicle manufacturer’s available trailering package and/or any required trailering content and representative aftermarket trailering equipment as specified in 5.2. In the case where a trailering package is not available from the tow-vehicle manufacturer or it does not include a trailer hitch component, the representative aftermarket trailering equipment as specified in 5.2 shall include a trailer hitch component.
3.2.2 Tow-vehicles at 8500 lb or Greater GVWR
TVTW is base vehicle curb weight plus one 68.0 kg (150 lb) driver and one 68.0 kg (150 lb) front seat passenger plus 45.4 kg (100 lb) of optional equipment split evenly between front and rear axles plus the tow-vehicle manufacturer’s available trailering package and/or any required trailering content and representative aftermarket trailering equipment as specified in 5.2. In the case where a trailering package is not available from the tow-vehicle manufacturer or it does not include a trailer hitch component, the representative aftermarket trailering equipment as specified in 5.2 shall include a trailer hitch component.
That doesn't apply to the F150. That's for vehicles Over 8500 GVWR.
I agree that the sticker on the door is based on curb weight and does not include the weight of the driver.
However, if you look at max payload charts, they indicate the driver's weight is included in the chart ratings:
And for slide-in campers, the max cargo weight includes the weight of a 150lb passenger at each available seating position:
Camper I agree with. If you are correct on payload then all the curb weights on Ford Fleet Site are wrong because if you add minimum curb weight, maximum payload and 150 lb every model is over GVWR.
I can't seem to make it work that way trying to include a 150 pound driver to the equation. GVWR 6750, Payload 1557, weight of truck with a nearly full tank and me, 5380, available payload 1370. If I subtract 150 from my weight, or if I add 150 back in, it still doesn't add up. So how does that work with the real actual numbers?
I can't seem to make it work that way trying to include a 150 pound driver to the equation. GVWR 6750, Payload 1557, weight of truck with a nearly full tank and me, 5380, available payload 1370. If I subtract 150 from my weight, or if I add 150 back in, it still doesn't add up. So how does that work with the real actual numbers?
My truck weighs 5040 lb Curb + 1907 Payload = 6947 lb
GVWR is 7000 lb. I have the extra 53 lb because Ford allows tolerance of about that much for tolerance stack that could increase the weight over theoretical. Also my weight could be off 20 lb or so (without even discussing accuracy and I find the Cat Scale to weigh about 0.1% Heavier than the State Scale) becausea CAT Scale only weighs axles to the nearest 20 lb. Curb Weights and Payloads of different cab wheelbase combos are on Ford's Fleet Site.
5380 - 150 (Assuming you weigh 150 lb, have full tankand have zero items in/on the truck that it didn't leave the factory with) = 5230 lb +1557 lb = 6787 lb I would guess you weigh more than 150 lb or you have a bed mat or tool box or just some extra items in the truck.
My 2014 scaled about 20 lbs lighter than the factory payload sticker suggested. It also had 275/60R20 Wrangler Duratracs, air bags, a catch can, my sons car seat base, and random crap in the center console. So maybe they do include a 150 lb driver in the payload.
The weight of drivers and passengers shouldn't even be a concern guys...
Maybe not to you skinny Canadians but to us fat-*** Americans, it should be (but meh, you're right, it isn't because I see so many trucks hauling campers past my office and I would bet over half of them are over weight). (additional note: most of them are driven by Mass-holes or New Yorkers)
08-21-2018, 07:28 PM
