KR Kodi

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Excellent!! That's a very high payload capacity!!

One thing that concerns me is that if this is such a bare bones truck with very few options, does it have the towing package, and will you get the ITBC (Integrated Trailer Brake Controller)? If this truck doesn't have the tow package, then you'll be limited to a 5000 lb trailer. And if it doesn't have the ITBC you absolutely need to add that.

I'm still assuming that the truck you're looking at is a SCrew and has the 6.5 ft bed (156.8" wheelbase) and has a GVWR of 6950 lbs - is that correct?

In your first post you said: "Puts around 1000 on the tongue and I will be running a WDH and sway. With wife, kids, and junk it should come in around 1800 in the truck."

I assume that means you'll have 800 lbs of people and stuff in the cab and bed, and 1000 lbs of tongue weight - is that correct?

If so, does that 800 lbs in the truck include your WDH? If not, add about 100 lbs so your total load is about 1900 lbs.

With a 2160 lb payload capacity, and 1900 lbs in/on the truck - so far so good!! but you're only 160 lbs below max!

If truck actually has a 6950 GVWR, subtract the payload capacity of 2160 from that to get the weight of the empty truck - which is 4790 lbs. BTW, that includes a full tank of gas.

With an empty truck at 4790, plus 800 lbs of people and stuff, plus 100 lb WDH, that means the truck all loaded up and ready to tow will weigh 5690 lbs.

If your trailer weighs 9000 lbs, and the loaded truck weighs 5690, add those together to get the total weight of your rig - and that's 14,690 lbs. With a GCWR of 15,200 (I think - I'm still assuming some stuff about your truck because we don't know the exact configuration) your about 500 below the GCWR - again, so far so good. You can see there's no way you'll be able to tow the "sales" brochure 10,100 lb trailer - unless you have NOTHING in the truck but a 150 lb driver!!

So....it looks like you might be JUST below the max payload, and about 500 under the GCWR. The only thing I'd like is more like 1100 lbs of tongue weight - and if you do that you'll still be under the payload capacity, but only by 60 lbs.

Additionally, until you take the entire rig, loaded like you'll tow it, to your local CAT scales, you won't know if you're under the rear axle GAWR - and I suspect you'll be pushing (and maybe over) that limit.

Bottom line - you'll be VERY close to some weight limits, but perhaps okay. I'd prefer to be conservatively under all the limits for a safe and comfortable towing experience. Anything over 7500-8000 lbs is a VERY large trailer to be towing with any F150 except one with the Heavy Duty package.

But....with the short distance in flatlands you'll be towing you'll probably be okay.

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Wannafbody

"One thing that concerns me is that if this is such a bare bones truck with very few options, does it have the towing package, and will you get the ITBC (Integrated Trailer Brake Controller)? If this truck doesn't have the tow package, then you'll be limited to a 5000 lb trailer. And if it doesn't have the ITBC you absolutely need to add that."

This is simply Ford BS. If the truck doesn't have the brake controller, add it and add a hitch. Any F150 can tow more than 5000#. Might not be a bad idea to upgrade the radiator.

Ricktwuhk

What happened to the 3,300 that the dealership said?

I am still doubtful that your door sticker says 2,160 pounds next to Payload. Hundreds of posts on the forum and the numbers are usually in the 1,300 - 1,800 pound range. People post their stickers.

Notice the KR Kodi explains that even if it is 2,160 pounds, you barely make the cut.

KR Kodi

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That's exactly why I'm concerned!! If he needs to add a hitch, ITBC, and better cooling features, that's more weight and less payload capacity - which he's up against already.
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Noles17

Thanks for the help, its pretty clear that the F150 is not for me.

smurfs_of_war

So... 50 lbs? He has a payload capacity of 2160lbs. That rivals some 3/4 tons. I really think that adding those components will not make that much of a difference. If he says his door sticker says 2160lbs, it says 2160lbs. Not my job to say otherwise.

In my eyes that's maybe a little much for ANY half ton, but the bottom line is- the numbers work out and you're going short distances. Hook, go, have fun, repeat.

This whole payload thing is getting old. 2 years ago if you *only* had 1600lbs you were an immediate danger and life threatening to those around you- unless you had an ecoboost- then it's fine. Now if you *only* have 2100lbs you are boderline an immediate danger and life threatening to those around you.

Seriously....

tsigwing

I've never owned or towed a travel trailer with my truck, but have loaded the crap out of the bed with rock and wood and construction materials and never once considered how much weight I was putting back there. If it fit, it got put back there. Guess I have been lucky for many years now.

KR Kodi

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Yes, he has a 2160 lb payload capacity - and with 1000 lbs of tongue weight he's 160 lbs below that.

If he has a more realistic 1100 lbs of tongue weight he'll be 60 lbs below payload capacity.

If he adds 50 lbs of hitch and cooling he'll be 10 lbs below payload capacity, so no problem!!
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11screw50

Except that your math is a little off here:
2160-1900 is 260, not 160...

still close but a little better...

KR Kodi

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Ooops - you're right!! So...he's got even more cushion!! I guess he's good to go with that 9000 lb trailer!
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