Maury82

Yep, lied to you just like if I tell you I am an official government wallet inspector...let me inspect yours ..lol.

acdii

Trust me on this, you would NOT want to tow a travel trailer with 10% tongue weight!! Not unless you enjoy fighting the wheel every time a semi goes buy, and they will because you will be crapping your pants at anything above 60. Been there Done that!

Nicklaus

Interresting... according to expert reference, tongue weight should be 10% of the trailer GVWR ( 10-15 % span). To me, 10% tongue weight is in th recommended area. However, I don't deny the experience you had operating your trailer.

acdii

10% is the minimum. It works OK for some trailers, but anything that has a high wind side load on it, like travel trailers, you do want more weight up front for stability purposes. The more weight on the ball, the more stable the trailer will be. One time when hauling an empty dump trailer that I rented, on an undulating road @ 55 MPH it started to sway, thankfully my years of semi driving kicked in and I slapped the trailer brakes to straighten it out, but had it been someone with little to no experience, it would have put them in a ditch. It had 10% tongue weight on it. When loaded it went up to 14%, pulled great after that.

thrifty biil

+10 Buying a truck trailer combo where only the MINIMUM of a tongue weight range is within your limit is foolish.

And sadly, most people just use the "Dry weight" that came with their trailer, and have not followed up with a real weight (CAT scale).

In addition, the payload figure does not include the weight of any options added by the dealer or you. Its the capacity when it left the factory. Many truck owners add a number of options later, on my list include side bed steps, spray in bed liner, towing mirrors, tonneau cover. Then you also have the weight of your hitch. All come out of that total.

Max tow just gives you some tasty options that assist with towing. Max Payload gives you the bump in payload.

Yes, they were lying, I'd find another dealer. Reporting to the sales manager likely a total waste of time.

marshallr

Tongue weight should be between 10% and 15%. Most boats will be about 10%, anything else should be 13-15%. Unless you get the heavy duty payload package somewhere around 5000-6000 lbs is the realistic limit on most 1/2 ton trucks regardless of who makes them. Even the ones rated to tow 10,000+ lbs. The salesman is quoting the maximum payload possible if the truck is equipped properly. Those are unicorns. They make them, but I've never seen one.

3/4 ton trucks don't pull heavy loads any better than 1/2 tons. The difference is in payload. Their suspension handles the weight better. Plus there is the ratio of tow vehicle weight vs trailer weight. Any time the trailer weighs more than the tow vehicle things are more complicated. Personally I'd not want to pull anything that was more than 1.5X heavier than the tow vehicle even if it meets all the other specs. It is theoretically possible for some trucks to tow 2X the weight of the truck. I wouldn't do it.

400 lbs is cutting things closer than I like. I weigh 220, my wife 140. That is 360, leaving 40 lbs for cargo in the truck

i2oadi2unnei2

All good points above., but know that AS tongue can be notoriously heavy. I've ready 150's pulling 30 and that's a stretch. I personally have no problem pulling a 25 and even may go up to a 28 under one rule, my payload better be no less than 2000, that's just me, YMMV and safe travels with your new AS!

acdii

That's 400 pounds, WITH people in the cab.

Canyonero02

According to the fine print on Ford's website "Payload Notes: Maximum capabilities shown are for properly equipped vehicles with required equipment and a 150-lb. driver." So I'm assuming the payload sticker on the door is factoring in 150lbs for the driver. My Screw 157 WB has a payload of 1855 lbs. In reality it would be 2050 before any people are in it. 150 lbs is not alot but it could be when you're loading everything down and trying to stay legal.

sholxgt

That explains a lot given that my towing capacity is supposed to be 12,700 lbs. After doing the math and calculating a 10% tongue weight, that would mean the driver of my truck could only weigh 77 lbs. That 150lb driver clause would put my truck into the plausible range vs not being possible at all.

Don't get me wrong...I would never tow that much with a 1/2 ton truck. I just need it to be capable of towing 6200ish lbs.