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Some day I need to pull my Trail-Et out of the barn and drop it on the TW scale to see what it weighs. I do know it is one heavy SOB. The upside of the BP horse trailer is the TW stays pretty much the same loaded or unloaded since the horses are centered over the axles.
Some day I need to pull my Trail-Et out of the barn and drop it on the TW scale to see what it weighs. I do know it is one heavy SOB. The upside of the BP horse trailer is the TW stays pretty much the same loaded or unloaded since the horses are centered over the axles.
Those Trail-Ets are nice! My friend has a Hawk - pretty similar - 2H straight-load BP w/ large dressing room - it tips the scales at 4000# empty. She pulls it with a 1/2 ton w/o WD. Kinda scary. Wouldn't put myself or my horse on that rig! I'd have to imagine her TW is well over 1000# with that DR loaded up.
So the tongue weight is a concern I have, since I have a small dressing room at the front. Am I correct that any cargo in there is going to add exclusively to the TW?
That is correct, anything in front of the axles will add to TW. I do know the TW on mine is a lot less than the TT. I use my Kubota to move them around and I can't move the TT with the bucket or the tractor will tip, but has no problem lifting and moving the HT with the bucket.
I used to tow mine with a 97 Explorer and WDH. Handled it just fine with 2 horses in it. I even pulled it with a Flex, though no horses in it. It hasn't had a horse in it since 2001.
My buddy has a space shuttle he needs moved a couple of miles down the road, Its like a 46,000 lb tongue weight. I have air bags and a WDH. Do you think I can do this if I keep it under 50mph or do I need to buy a Tundra?
My buddy has a space shuttle he needs moved a couple of miles down the road, Its like a 46,000 lb tongue weight. I have air bags and a WDH. Do you think I can do this if I keep it under 50mph or do I need to buy a Tundra?
Looks like you forgot your safety chains there buddy.
As requested by ACDII, below is the link and spreadsheet that was used to set up my truck, trailer and WDH. I received this from another member on this forum and made a couple changes regarding on how scale data is entered. Please feel free to use it and if you have any questions, PM me directly and I would be happy to answer them for you.
Here's how it breaks down:
You load your truck (including full tank of fuel) and trailer according to how it will travel. Make 3 passes over the scale:
- 1. Truck only with the WDH and bars on the truck.
- 2. Truck and trailer connected, WDH disengaged.
- 3. Truck and trailer connected, WDH engaged.
The spreadsheet will tell you pretty much everything you need to know and show if your set up is overloaded in any one area.
Below is my example. I weighed with only my son and me in the truck. The truck alone still had plenty of usable payload. With the trailer and the WDH disengaged, my rear axle was overloaded by 4%. With the WDH engaged, the rear axle was back within spec and I had a remaining 240 in payload. This still allowed my wife and other son (they weigh together 190 pounds) to ride in the truck and still give me an additional 50 pounds of available. While I am at near maximum capacity, this shows me that with a WDH, my truck and trailer are still within all of the Gross weight rating specs.
This spring I need to get back to the scales and re-weigh my truck. I still can't understand how a truck that is supposed to be "Lighter" weighs 20 pounds more than my 14 did. Last time I took the trailer out I got scale weights with the Blue Ox and it appears I gained back 400 pounds of payload with it properly set up.
09-14-2017, 03:29 PM
