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Old 10-09-2014, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by borninblue
I am beginning to like the standard options offered on the Lariat, and the power fold mirrors may tip my scale that way. That is good news on the trailer weight, loaded I would guess closer to 8,500-9,000lbs well within the F150 3.5 Eco. I would like to see the tongue weight around 500lbs., but 600lbs. is way better than 830lbs. That would make me feel much more comfortable payload wise. I put a call into Laredo regarding that trailer and was transferred to someone's voice mail. Left a message and still awaiting a call back. I am sure you will be happy with the fifth wheel, they have many nice models, I just need the bunks for two small kids.
Well you can always fill the grey H2o (as they are generally at the rear) any Xtra wt on the rear could lighten the tounge wt. Normally I'd say bad idea but the F150s have a very effective sway control system to mitigate jack knifing
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Originally Posted by Bill_The_PA
Well you can always fill the grey H2o (as they are generally at the rear) any Xtra wt on the rear could lighten the tounge wt. Normally I'd say bad idea but the F150s have a very effective sway control system to mitigate jack knifing
Good point, however I will not be storing my trailer at the house it will be a storage facility. Not sure what type of water access I will have there as of yet.
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loaded I would guess closer to 8,500-9,000lbs well within the F150 3.5 Eco. I would like to see the tongue weight around 500lbs., but 600lbs. is way better than 830lbs.
Those tongue weights are less than 10%.

Low loaded tongue weights, less than say 12-13% of loaded travel trailer weights, can lead to sway. You will need a very effected sway control setup on your WDH if you go below 12%. (Flat bed trailers can go down to 10%)

Normally I'd say bad idea but the F150s have a very effective sway control system to mitigate jack knifing
I wouldn't count on the truck's sway control. It doesn't come in until you've already lost control and are in a pretty bad situation. It may save you then, but it' really better not to be there. Mine has never come on, but then I have 15% tongue weight. The higher the tongue weight, the more stable the tow.
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Originally Posted by brulaz
Those tongue weights are less than 10%. Low loaded tongue weights, less than say 12-13% of loaded travel trailer weights, can lead to sway. You will need a very effected sway control setup on your WDH if you go below 12%. (Flat bed trailers can go down to 10%) I wouldn't count on the truck's sway control. It doesn't come in until you've already lost control and are in a pretty bad situation. It may save you then, but it' really better not to be there. Mine has never come on, but then I have 15% tongue weight. The higher the tongue weight, the more stable the tow.
agreed. I never actually calculated the 10-15% safe zone with the quoted numbers for the 28BH... My bad. (I usually do for all my wt info on these posts). Anyhow all said and done good safety points. It's always a good idea to have max % on tongue with a zero remaining payload.
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Originally Posted by borninblue
Good point, however I will not be storing my trailer at the house it will be a storage facility. Not sure what type of water access I will have there as of yet.
sorry for the confusion WRT the grey H2o tank. I was trying to say people have used their grey water tanks to lighten the tongue wt as that's usually the limiting factor as your well aware.
As you have just read you always try for a minimal 15% tongue wt and if need zero payload remaining.
Once you get to your location you empty the grey water tank(filled with clean water) and enjoy camping.
Sorry for any confusion.

I'm sure once you load your trailer all will be good.



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