need help about the 11,100 towing
07-04-2016, 12:32 AM
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need help about the 11,100 towing
hello everybody i am new at this my brother has a 2010 crew cab f150 fx4 ford said that he can tow 11,100 for a 1/2 ton he has his eye on a 2017 carbon 31 toy hauler that at dry weight is 8600 and 12,000 max but he will never have that much in there. his truck with him in it is a 5,900. I have made a lot of upgrades to his truck like drill slotted rotors, bigger transmission radiator with electric fans, better torque converter. I know his rear end is the 3.73 with the electronic lock. I know he is going to get the reese straight-line distribuion and sway control. I am trying to find a way to tell him it to much for his truck and i need help explaining to him why it to big for him. I know it will never leave the state that we are in. I am trying to make it safe for him and everybody on the road.
plus i built it and hate to see something happen to it it brings business in to my shop when sitting out front lol
plus i built it and hate to see something happen to it it brings business in to my shop when sitting out front lol
Last edited by rangerman95; 07-04-2016 at 12:36 AM.
07-04-2016, 02:23 AM
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No sticker inside the door? Sorry I am not an expert at all I pull a 6k lbs horse trailer a few times a year, I am just trying to get the basic info I know these guys are gonna ask for. A trailer can be anywhere from 10% to 15% tongue weight. So for a 12k lbs trailer high end that is 1800lbs which would put me 100lbs over what my payload sticker says on my truck before I even get in it. There is alot more numbers to be gone over but like I said I am no expert.
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07-04-2016, 03:49 AM
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Gcwr is the weight of the truck and trailer combined I believe. Best to wait for the more knowledgeable guys to chime in. After reading the other thread I mentioned earlier I ask not sure the hitch is even rated to take that much weight on the f150. In the picture of the sticker you took that yellow sticker that says tire and load information should say something about the payload on it.
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07-04-2016, 07:20 AM
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I commend you on trying to keep us safe despite your less intelligent brother.
The issue is PAYLOAD. There should be another tag next to that tag that specifies it. If not, see that 7,700 GVWR? That is the max weight including the tongue weight. Have him fill the gas tank, load the people and pets and cargo that the truck will have, then weight it including front and rear axle weights.
Assume it is 6,600 lbs. 7,700 - 6,600 = 1,100. Subtract 100 lbs for a weight distribution hitch, leaving 1,000. Divide by .13 (avg tongue weight) and you get 7,692. That is the max weight of the fully loaded trailer. This is just an example.
If you find a Payload sticker, subtract from it 100 pounds for WDH, weight of all passengers and pets and cargo and modifications to the truck including bedliner. And all the mods you made, which will reduce payload.
In short, your brother is way, way, way over payload and likely max axle weights.
There are dozens of posts explaining this over and over. Get your brother to do some reading.
The issue is PAYLOAD. There should be another tag next to that tag that specifies it. If not, see that 7,700 GVWR? That is the max weight including the tongue weight. Have him fill the gas tank, load the people and pets and cargo that the truck will have, then weight it including front and rear axle weights.
Assume it is 6,600 lbs. 7,700 - 6,600 = 1,100. Subtract 100 lbs for a weight distribution hitch, leaving 1,000. Divide by .13 (avg tongue weight) and you get 7,692. That is the max weight of the fully loaded trailer. This is just an example.
If you find a Payload sticker, subtract from it 100 pounds for WDH, weight of all passengers and pets and cargo and modifications to the truck including bedliner. And all the mods you made, which will reduce payload.
In short, your brother is way, way, way over payload and likely max axle weights.
There are dozens of posts explaining this over and over. Get your brother to do some reading.
Last edited by Ricktwuhk; 07-04-2016 at 07:46 AM.
07-04-2016, 07:27 AM
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Gcwr is the weight of the truck and trailer combined I believe. Best to wait for the more knowledgeable guys to chime in. After reading the other thread I mentioned earlier I ask not sure the hitch is even rated to take that much weight on the f150. In the picture of the sticker you took that yellow sticker that says tire and load information should say something about the payload on it.
