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Old 03-09-2019, 10:25 PM
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Hi All,

New member and first post. Looking for a 2018 or 19 150 Lariat crew cab with sufficient payload to pull a large-ish travel trailer. I’ve found several with the 7000lb GVRW package thinking that would get me there. But the one I looked at today had a payload capacity of 1665 according to the door sticker. I was thinking the 7000 package would get me to 2k payload.

I want a Screw with leather and 20 inch wheels if possible. Is the 7k GVRW package not enough? I’ve not found any with the heavy duty payload package. Also, when I build one on the Ford website, that option doesn’t even come up. What am I missing?

How can I tow a 7500 lb travel trailer with a family, dogs and cooler/gear in the truck without going to a 250?

thanks all!

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Custom order one with as little options (weight) that you can and include the heavy duty payload package. That's about the only way you're going to get near the 2000 pound mark.

Don't get hug up so much on the GVWR of the truck but what the actual payload is. Also, consider how you can transfer some of that gear in the bed to the trailer. Lightening the truck will help as it still can pull the trailer just fine.

What's the GVWR of the trailer and the tongue weight?

I was in your shoes last year and finally admitted to needing a F250. It was a wise choice.

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Originally Posted by Bjkb1f View Post
. Looking for a 2018 or 19 150 Lariat crew cab with sufficient payload to pull a large-ish travel trailer. I’ve found several with the 7000lb GVRW package thinking that would get me there. But the one I looked at today had a payload capacity of 1665 according to the door sticker. I was thinking the 7000 package would get me to 2k payload.
Nope. To get over around 1,800 payload capacity, The new F-150 needs to have the heavy duty payload package (HDPP), which results in around 7,850 GVWR.

I want a Screw with leather and 20 inch wheels if possible. Is the 7k GVRW package not enough?
Nope. You need GVWR of 7,850.

I’ve not found any with the heavy duty payload package. Also, when I build one on the Ford website, that option doesn’t even come up. What am I missing?
You're trying to build one that Ford doesn't allow. The fanciest trim level available with HDPP is XLT mid (301A). No Lariat or above trim. No short bed; for a SuperCrew it must have the 6.5' bed. No 20" wheels. Depending on trim, it will have either 17" or 18" HDPP wheels. If you choose a trim that has steel wheels, then you can upgrade to HDPP alloy wheels.

On Ford.com build&price, begin with F-150 XLT SuperCrew with 3.5L EooBoost engine, 3.73 e-locker axle, 6.5' bed, and your choice of 4x2 or 4x4. Then save and go to packages Now you will see both HDPP and max tow packages. Choose both. Then go back to the top and complete your configuration. Then add other packages and options, including trailer tow mirrors. But be certain that when you add a package or option the system will allow it without deleting HDPP.

How can I tow a 7500 lb travel trailer with a family, dogs and cooler/gear in the truck without going to a 250?
Resign yourself to the fact that you cannot have fancier trim than XLT 301A. Then order the truck with HDPP. Yes, order, and plan on at least two months for your dealer to receive it. With a TT that grosses a max of 7,500 pounds, you could even choose the antiquated 5.0L V8 engine instead of the wonderful 3.5L twin-turbo motivator. But you cannot order the 5.0L with max tow, so if you insist on the 5.0L then note that the integrated trailer bake controller is not included with HDPP or the regular tow pkg

If you don't like the restrictions required go get an F-150 with HDPP, then look again at the SuperDuty with the gas engine. Comparable performance, very little higher price, and a crewcab with 6.5' bed is very close to the same overall length as the F-150 SuperCrew with 6.5' bed.

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Looks like supercrew with 6.5' will get you there payload wise, but the lowest rated 3.5 I see is 10,600 with 3.15 gears, and 5.0 is 8400 with the same. 5.0 with 3.73 bumps between 9700-11,500
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Smokey has it right. XLT, 3.5, HDPP. Like my sig....
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Originally Posted by Brokemillwright View Post
Looks like supercrew with 6.5' will get you there payload wise, but the lowest rated 3.5 I see is 10,600 with 3.15 gears, and 5.0 is 8400 with the same. 5.0 with 3.73 bumps between 9700-11,500
none of those take into account vehicle options which is what OP wants, a Lariat.

The more bells and whistles, the lower your payload.

My Screw short bed 4x4 STX has 1942lbs payload with 7000 GVWR, but no leather, no heated/power seats.
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By the time you do all of that it is easier, and probably cheaper to buy an F250.
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As stated above, the higher the trim level you're seeking, the lower the payload rating. You can get to 2000# in an XL/XLT with minimal options, however. I have an XL SCab 4x4 with the 101A pkg, 3.5EB, 3.55 e-locker, Max Tow and the payload is 1960# without the HDPP frame. If you want to surround yourself with butter-soft leather and have your butt warmed and massaged while towing large, get an F250!
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Originally Posted by chimmike View Post
none of those take into account vehicle options which is what OP wants, a Lariat.

The more bells and whistles, the lower your payload.

My Screw short bed 4x4 STX has 1942lbs payload with 7000 GVWR, but no leather, no heated/power seats.
true, but the op can look at the chart, see the crew cab longbed without hdpp comes in at 2260 or so, then can determine if he can be a few hundred pounds shy if his mythical 2k payload. He is just looking at pulling a 7k trailer. Something I do with my 14' which had 18xx payload. this suff isn't rocket science, if your going to routinely pull or haul near max and a few hundred pounds i's a deal breaker, get a more capable truck
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Originally Posted by marshallr View Post
By the time you do all of that it is easier, and probably cheaper to buy an F250.
Not cheaper, but not a lot higher. With the same XLT trim, very close. But he wants Lariat trim, so that's about $2k more.

Per Ford build&price:

F-150 SuperCrew 4x4 XLT HDPP w/max tow pkg = MSRP 51,660
F-250 CrewCab 4x4 Lariat = MSRP $53,640
= $1,980 difference.


Details:
Your F-150
$45,170 Base MSRP
+$4,895 Total of Options
+$1,595 Destination Charges
=$51,660 Total MSRP

Model:
$45,170 | 2019 Ford F-150 XLT SuperCrew®, 6-1/2' Box, 3.5L V6 EcoBoost® Engine with Auto Start/Stop Technology, Electronic Ten-Speed Automatic Transmission with Tow/Haul and Sport Mode, 4X4, 3.73 Electronic Locking Axle Ratio
Packages:
+$2,150 301A - ($1,000) Equipment Group 301A Discount = $1,150 net
+$1,195 Max Trailer Tow Package
+$1,500 Heavy-Duty Payload Package
Powertrain:
3.5L EcoBoost® V6 Engine with Auto Start/Stop Technology
Electronic 10-speed Transmission with Tow/Haul, Snow/Wet, EcoSelect and Sport Modes
4X4

Exterior:
+$275 Manual-Folding, Manually Telescoping, Power Glass Trailer Tow Mirrors with Heat, Turn Signal, High-Intensity LED Security Approach Lamps
+$175 LED Side-Mirror Spotlights (Req’d to get tow mirrors)

Interior:
$0 Trailer Brake Controller (TBC) (part of max tow pkg)
$0 Rear View Camera with Dynamic Hitch Assist (part of 301A?)
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Your F-250

$48,470 Base MSRP
+$3,575 Total of Options
+$1,595 Destination Charges
=$53,640 Total MSRP
Model:
$48,470 2019 Ford Super Duty F-250 LARIAT, Crew Cab®, 6 3/4’ Box, 6.2L 2-Valve Gas SOHC EFI NA V8 (Flex-Fuel) Engine, TorqShift®-G 6-Speed SelectShift® Automatic with 6.2L, 3.73 Electronic Locking Axle Ratio, 4X4, SRW
Powertrain:
6.2L SOHC 2-valve Flex Fuel V8 engine
4X4
TorqShift® Heavy-Duty 6-speed Automatic Transmission with SelectShift-G™ (F-250 Only)
3.73 Electronic Locking Axle Ratio
Packages:
$0 10,000/9,900 GVWR Package (standard)
Exterior:
$0 18-inch Bright Machined Cast Aluminum Wheels with Magnetic Painted Pockets and Bright Hub Cover and Center Ornament (SRW)
$0 PowerScope® Telescoping Trailer Tow Mirrors (Std w/ Lariat)
$0 LT275/65Rx18E BSW A/S Tires
Interior:
$0 Premium Leather-Trimmed Front Seats
$0 Integrated Trailer Brake Controller
$0 Electronic-Shift-On-the-Fly (ESOF)
$0 110-Volt/400-Watt AC Outlet
$0 FordPass™ Connect
$0 B&O Play® Premium Audio System
$0 SiriusXM® Radio
$0 SYNC® 3

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