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Old 07-12-2019, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by spammagnet
Hello. I'm driving a stock 2016 Lariat SuperCrew short bed with a 3.5L EB and max tow package (not HDPP). The rated payload is ~1725#. I used FORScan to change the transmission temp gauge to display the digits above the gauge. I'll be towing a Rockwood Mini-Lite with a GVWR just a shade under 7000#. Everything including tongue weight is within the truck's specs when fully loaded as I will pull it.

What is the maximum acceptable transmission temp on the stock gauge? What is the maximum acceptable sustained temp on the same gauge?

I consider those to be different, e.g., if the temp hits X degrees I need to pull over, now, but even if staying below that I should not drive at X-15 degrees for more than 5 or 10 minutes. If my thoughts about that are misinformed, please advise.

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Max sustained temp is 220 to 230 no higher. Short burst can do 245 no more or the lymp home may come on
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Depends on the type and model. Does it have a transmission cooler?
It's a stock Maximum Tow Package so, yes, it has a transmission cooler.
Old 07-13-2019, 01:15 PM
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You won't need a "tune" to keep the converter locked, just pay attention to how deep you're tipping into the throttle. Tow/Haul will have the t/c lock sooner, yes. Also, if you've ever ridden a motorcycle, then you're ready to select M, and shift manually with the +/- toggle on the shift lever. A little higher rpm should also keep the t/c locked, then you can open the throttle and start shoveling some coal.

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2019 XLT FX4 screw with 3.5 EB and HDPP. Pulled my 27 ft trailer over Wolf Creek Pass (10500) this weekend and 233 max on trans. That's a hill with a pull for you flatlanders. Not to mention going over Slumgullion Pass to Lake City Co. at 11,500. Not as bad because turns and up and downs unlike the straight uphill pull on Wolf Creek.

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Originally Posted by spammagnet
It's a stock Maximum Tow Package so, yes, it has a transmission cooler.
Not so fast, mine has a max tow package, yet came with no aux cooler, are you sure? Have you seen it? Im not talking about the in tank inside of the rad either
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Originally Posted by Topher Wayne
Not so fast, mine has a max tow package, yet came with no aux cooler, are you sure? Have you seen it? Im not talking about the in tank inside of the rad either
2018 and 2019 F-150 with max tow pkg all have an auxiliary tranny cooler. But it's not the oil-to-air (OTA) heat exchanger of earlier models. So there is no heat exchanger in front of the radiator. Instead, there is an oil-to-water (OTW) heat exchanger behind the tranny.. Works fine, but to see the OTW cooler you have to crawl under the truck and look up behind the tranny. And no, it doesn't look like a small radiator. It looks like a metal enclosure (bucket?) with coolant lines going to and from it.

That heat exchanger is an auxiliary cooler, in addition to the standard OTW cooler in the bottom of the radiator.

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Originally Posted by BobnCo
2019 XLT FX4 screw with 3.5 EB and HDPP. Pulled my 27 ft trailer over Wolf Creek Pass (10500) this weekend and 233 max on trans. That's a hill with a pull for you flatlanders. Not to mention going over Slumgullion Pass to Lake City Co. at 11,500. Not as bad because turns and up and downs unlike the straight uphill pull on Wolf Creek.
That's a short-bed, is it not? I thought the HDPP was available only with a 6.5' bed?
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Originally Posted by spammagnet
That's a short-bed, is it not? I thought the HDPP was available only with a 6.5' bed?
No it's short bed and it has the HDPP. 13,200 lb trailer towing, not that I would try it but it can be done.
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I saw 230F today towing about 3000pounds up a 7% sustained grade in Utah......3rd gear and about 2500rpm.

A big factor is vehicle speed. Crawling up a steep 4x4 trail with 3000lb trailer gets high temp numbers.

Analog display was still in middle of range and a long way from the red and yellow bands.



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Originally Posted by BobnCo
No it's short bed and it has the HDPP. 13,200 lb trailer towing, not that I would try it but it can be done.
You read something wrong somewhere. You may have max tow, but if you're in the USA you don't have the heavy duty payload package (HDPP). No such thing as a 5.5' bed with HDPP in the USA. Probably not in Canada either, but Canuk specs are different than ours.

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