KRAZO

Here's a copy of the window sticker. What is the towing capacity of this truck? what are you looking at on the sticker to determine capacity? also what is the payload rating?

I'm new to trucks and F150s. Thanks in advance.

Ricktwuhk

Cannot be determined from a window sticker.

Open your door, read the yellow sticker on the door frame that has Payload on it.

Tailgate step and bigger tank add weight. I'll bet the payload is around 1,519 pounds...

KRAZO

Is that for payload AND towing capacity or just payload?

chimmike

payload capacity ultimately dictates towing capacity on that specific truck. They are not mutually exclusive.
1500lbs payload means your trailer tongue weight hitch weight, passengers, and cargo in the truck must fall below 1500lbs on top of the curb weight.

Figure a travel trailer with weight distributing hitch has a 13-15% tongue weight when LOADED (throw dry numbers out the window immediately). So a 7,000lb LOADED travel trailer will have a tongue weight between 910-1,050lbs. That leaves you between 450-590lbs for passengers and cargo and hitch weight (100lbs or so) in the truck before piercing the truck's GVWR.

dodgeman1

I'd put his payload at between 1800 and 1900 lbs.

KRAZO

Is it just me or does it sound like this truck may not be good for towing? 450-590 lbs for passengers and cargo inside the truck sounds light to me. im not a big guy but im 200, add wife kid and dog and we're prob pretty close to that limit. I dont tow much but boat, small kubota. that tractor & trailer will prob be close to the limit here.

would it be safe to say if I dont fill the gas tank (36 gal) full, say maybe 20gallons I could add more cargo weight?

chimmike

No different than any other half-ton out there. Compare features and curb weights of other half-tons and see what their available payload is.
The towing weight limits rules are the same across all trucks...…

Actually, I'd bed an equivalent Ram has less payload. Just know that most times you see folks towing 30' travel trailers with half ton trucks, there's a very good chance they've popped their GVWR number on the truck. And Lord help you if you try to explain all that to them....the indignant/dismissive responses are hysterical.

You want to be able to tow the max trailer weight? Buy a long bed supercab XL 3.5 ecoboost with heavy duty payload package. That sucker will have the capacities to tow 11,000lbs.

I am also guessing your payload is sub-1800lbs. That tailgate step is heavy. I've got 1942lbs payload but no 36g tank.

Ricktwuhk

Stop guessing and look at the Payload sticker. Speculating is silly, your payload is a factual number.

You should spend some time reading the threads in this section to understand the math.

If you start trying to play games, like only keeping a max of 20 gallons in the tank instead of 36, you know you bought the wrong truck. 16 x 6 = 96 pounds. Do you really think that's going to save the day?

By the way, you'll get 8 - 10 MPG towing. So that 20 gallons won't get you more than 2 1/2 hours of driving...

KRAZO

Agreed. But havnt bought the truck yet. I will take a look at it. The window sticker is the only info I have at the moment and wanted to see if this information was able to be determined from that.

Now that we've covered payload, how is the towing capacity calculated? is that another figure on the sticker or is there an equation I can use to calculate this? I get that these two things are related and I need payload to properly calculate towing capacity. whats that equation though

chimmike

GVWR less curb weight=payload. The owner's manual will specify "max trailer weight" based on wheelbase, cab size, 4x4 v 2wd, and engine....so if you have that info, you can determine the theoretical max trailer weight. But it all goes back to what the tongue weight of a trailer is. Maybe a 9,000lb boat has a tongue weight of 700lbs. That would fall within several models.