Lets see your campers being towed
08-10-2012, 11:13 AM
#641
Senior Member
Originally Posted by jcain
Like it matters...
08-10-2012, 11:16 AM
#642
Senior Member
Originally Posted by eduardobibm
I thought about a fifth wheel, but need the bed of my truck for my dirtbike. I would liked to have found a 5th wheel toy hauler my F-150 could tow but they don't appear to exist.
Lightest one I found had a hitch weight of 1800 lbs.
That being said, if the advantage of a 5th wheel over a TT is drivability I think I am going to be fine. I love the way this thing tows so far. Very easy.
Lightest one I found had a hitch weight of 1800 lbs.
That being said, if the advantage of a 5th wheel over a TT is drivability I think I am going to be fine. I love the way this thing tows so far. Very easy.
08-10-2012, 11:17 AM
#643
I meant impossible while respecting GVWR and rear axle ratings using real weight. I took a long hard look at this before deciding that I really needed an F-250. For me a crew cab and 4x4 are needed. Also I will be having about 400lbs of passengers to factor in.
Yes lots of people do it and most seem to have no trouble at all doing it. Maybe the trucks are overbuilt with a big margin. Maybe it's a bit of marketing to make people buy F-250s instead.
My choice is to get the F-250. Other people are doing fine with the F-150. I don't think it's much of a security issue vs so many other crazy things that happen on the road. To each their own choice.
Yes lots of people do it and most seem to have no trouble at all doing it. Maybe the trucks are overbuilt with a big margin. Maybe it's a bit of marketing to make people buy F-250s instead.
My choice is to get the F-250. Other people are doing fine with the F-150. I don't think it's much of a security issue vs so many other crazy things that happen on the road. To each their own choice.
08-10-2012, 11:23 AM
#644
Senior Member
Originally Posted by Fastfwd
I meant impossible while respecting GVWR and rear axle ratings using real weight. I took a long hard look at this before deciding that I really needed an F-250. For me a crew cab and 4x4 are needed. Also I will be having about 400lbs of passengers to factor in.
Yes lots of people do it and most seem to have no trouble at all doing it. Maybe the trucks are overbuilt with a big margin. Maybe it's a bit of marketing to make people buy F-250s instead.
My choice is to get the F-250. Other people are doing fine with the F-150. I don't think it's much of a security issue vs so many other crazy things that happen on the road. To each their own choice.
08-10-2012, 11:29 AM
#645
Yes it's possible.
Lightest pin weight = 1100
+ hitch = 200lbs
+ driver= 200lbs
=1500lbs empty
So it can be done with empty trailer and just the driver in the truck.
It becomes easier with higher payload which can be had from smaller cabs, RWD and HD payload options.
But I would say that 90%+ of combinations are going to be overweight. Most have a pin weight higher than 1100lbs. Most are not going to be driver only in the truck. Most are not going to be pulling empty trailers. It can be done if yu are the 10%(number pulled out of my a**).
08-10-2012, 11:41 AM
#646
Agree, it is possible. They make 5th wheels that are advertised as being 1/2 ton towable and as noted there are a number of people doing on this site.
My challenge was finding a 5th wheel toy hauler. They all seem to be heavier. And I have no interest in pulling a trailer behind my trailer.
Most I will do is have one bike in the bed (diagnal so I can close the tailgate) and on a versahaul (motorcycle carrier) on the back of the trailer.
My challenge was finding a 5th wheel toy hauler. They all seem to be heavier. And I have no interest in pulling a trailer behind my trailer.
Most I will do is have one bike in the bed (diagnal so I can close the tailgate) and on a versahaul (motorcycle carrier) on the back of the trailer.
08-10-2012, 04:22 PM
#647
Senior Member
Originally Posted by eduardobibm
Agree, it is possible. They make 5th wheels that are advertised as being 1/2 ton towable and as noted there are a number of people doing on this site.
My challenge was finding a 5th wheel toy hauler. They all seem to be heavier. And I have no interest in pulling a trailer behind my trailer.
Most I will do is have one bike in the bed (diagnal so I can close the tailgate) and on a versahaul (motorcycle carrier) on the back of the trailer.
My challenge was finding a 5th wheel toy hauler. They all seem to be heavier. And I have no interest in pulling a trailer behind my trailer.
Most I will do is have one bike in the bed (diagnal so I can close the tailgate) and on a versahaul (motorcycle carrier) on the back of the trailer.
08-10-2012, 05:41 PM
#648
Senior Member
Didn't take pictures but i towed a14k pound car hauler from 29 palms to Phoenix...i had a load distributing hitch and we were able to balance the trailer well. It towed great and never felt bad...i had cruise set at 55mph and it went through everything without shifting down to much....wouldn't do it often but in a pinch these trucks just perform over and over....i did it with the livernois 87 tune but filled the truck with 91
08-10-2012, 08:56 PM
#649
Senior Member
I'm no expert either; just read a LOT about it lately.
Yes it's possible.
Lightest pin weight = 1100
+ hitch = 200lbs
+ driver= 200lbs
=1500lbs empty
So it can be done with empty trailer and just the driver in the truck.
It becomes easier with higher payload which can be had from smaller cabs, RWD and HD payload options.
But I would say that 90%+ of combinations are going to be overweight. Most have a pin weight higher than 1100lbs. Most are not going to be driver only in the truck. Most are not going to be pulling empty trailers. It can be done if yu are the 10%(number pulled out of my a**).
Yes it's possible.
Lightest pin weight = 1100
+ hitch = 200lbs
+ driver= 200lbs
=1500lbs empty
So it can be done with empty trailer and just the driver in the truck.
It becomes easier with higher payload which can be had from smaller cabs, RWD and HD payload options.
But I would say that 90%+ of combinations are going to be overweight. Most have a pin weight higher than 1100lbs. Most are not going to be driver only in the truck. Most are not going to be pulling empty trailers. It can be done if yu are the 10%(number pulled out of my a**).
Finally someone else that pays attention to that stuff (like people should)
kudos to you.
08-10-2012, 10:08 PM
#650
Senior Member/Vietnam Vet
I'm no expert either; just read a LOT about it lately.
Yes it's possible.
Lightest pin weight = 1100
+ hitch = 200lbs
+ driver= 200lbs
=1500lbs empty
So it can be done with empty trailer and just the driver in the truck.
It becomes easier with higher payload which can be had from smaller cabs, RWD and HD payload options.
But I would say that 90%+ of combinations are going to be overweight. Most have a pin weight higher than 1100lbs. Most are not going to be driver only in the truck. Most are not going to be pulling empty trailers. It can be done if yu are the 10%(number pulled out of my a**).
Yes it's possible.
Lightest pin weight = 1100
+ hitch = 200lbs
+ driver= 200lbs
=1500lbs empty
So it can be done with empty trailer and just the driver in the truck.
It becomes easier with higher payload which can be had from smaller cabs, RWD and HD payload options.
But I would say that 90%+ of combinations are going to be overweight. Most have a pin weight higher than 1100lbs. Most are not going to be driver only in the truck. Most are not going to be pulling empty trailers. It can be done if yu are the 10%(number pulled out of my a**).
