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Old 07-10-2012, 04:19 AM
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thats gonna depend a lot on where the storage compartments are on each trailer. My guess is most of them might have storage towards the rear. I do know from the folks 5th wheel tho that most of the storage is in the front, not good for the pin weight, but man do I prefer a 30ft 5th over a bumper bull anyday. Even with a WD hitch setup well they are still not as nice.
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2007 starcraft travelstar toy hauler model. This was the first time out with it. Just swapped to 4.56 gears so this weekends tow should be a breeze. Also adjusted the hitch so the bars will have less bend. Moved it up one notch.
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Just closed the deal on a 2013 Forest River Shockwave 21FSMX today! Gotta wait 6ish weeks to get it though We had to order it to our needs in order to save $5K compared to the model they had on the lot. It should suit our needs great and be well within the limits of the truck's (and the driver's) capabilities.

http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/def...99&series=MXTT

http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/tou...6&tourtype=low

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Old 07-11-2012, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by guessboy3
Looking for a quick answer and figured with plenty of subscribers to this thread it'd be the best way.

I found a good deal on a TT we like but here's the catch.

It's dry weight is 6,164lb with a hitch weight of 772lb. Unfortunately I can't find a wet hitch weight.

My 2011 5.0 w/ 3.73 has a payload of only about 1400lbs. Once the TT is loaded do you think I'd be too limited by being near the payload limit or being right near the line would be good? How much does loading the average TT increase hitch weight?

Thanks for the help!
For a "Wet Weight" use the Gross weight rating for the trailer. As as for tounge weight your factory or dry % is 12.5% (Hitch weight divide by Dry trailer weight = % of weight on tounge). Your payload weight is a bad number to use do to the fact that it is the max weight in the bed with A 150 LB DRIVER ONLY. everything else subtracts from. Look for your GCWR or Gross Combine Weight Rating this is the number to go by. If you do not exceed this then it is nearly impossible to exceed any other of your max weights, be it axle, truck, trailer etc. If you take your GVW for the truck and subtract it from the GCWR and use the resulting number as the max GVW for the trailer you should never ever have a problem towing (getting it loaded and then getting on the scales to confirm weights is always a great idea, very few actually due) Example: Truck GVW = 5600 GCWR = 12600 Trailer GVW should be 7000lbs or less. If you look at all the numbers you will start to see that your GCWR is equal to your curb weight of your truck plus the trucks max trailer towing capacity. So ever lb of people and gear lowers the amount you can tow / haul. As for the other comment on the thread, loading does play a factor. As most of the storage in an RV trailer is forward of the axles. Every lb you add in gear will increase the tongue weight by the factory % (in this case 12.5%) plus a small % more. I.E. Your tongue starts at 772, add a 1000lbs of gear it would increase by 12.5% or 125lbs to a total of 897 lbs, but actually it will have inceased to around 913lbs more or less.

You asked a very loaded question if you want to do thing right and safely.

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Old 07-13-2012, 02:29 AM
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Thanks. Will try for some pics this week.
Old 07-13-2012, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tomb1269
Your payload weight is a bad number to use do to the fact that it is the max weight in the bed with A 150 LB DRIVER ONLY. everything else subtracts from. Look for your GCWR or Gross Combine Weight Rating this is the number to go by. If you do not exceed this then it is nearly impossible to exceed any other of your max weights, be it axle, truck, trailer etc.
Not to high jack the purpose of this thread too much, but I have to disagree with this statement. First, per ford, the payload of your vehicle is calculated with a full tank of gas and all required fluids in your truck. I do not believe it includes the 150 lb driver allowance but I would have to double check that as I don't remember for sure, there was a pdf posted on this forum explaining payload and how ford arrives at its number. Long story short, weigh your truck loaded and ready for camping, including all passengers in the truck and a full tank of gas but without the trailer. Subtract this number from your gvwr and that is your max trailer pin/hitch weight. After going through the calculations for my new fifth wheel I found the most limiting factors on my truck to be my payload and rawr. Take a look at the thread called "fifth week towing I'm doing it." Lots of good info in there and the op found rawr and payload to be the most restrictive factor just as I did. Slightly different perhaps because a fifth wheel requires more payload but I think you will find similar results.

The calculations you provided are very clear and can be useful though, imo you should always check all of your weights to determine what will be your limiting factor. Go get everything weighed would be my main point. Its easy and cheap to do and then you know for sure what your limits are.

Now back to the pictures!
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:37 PM
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heres my rig,
2012 EB screw 6.5 bed max trailer tow pkg, 3.73
2007 eclipse attitude 26' toy hauler 7200 lbs dry, 100 gallon water, 40 gal black, 40 gallon grey tank, and 35 gallon fuel station

Roughly about 10500 lbs loaded, so I use every bit of my 11200 lb trailer weight
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jjm1024
Not to high jack the purpose of this thread too much, but I have to disagree with this statement. First, per ford, the payload of your vehicle is calculated with a full tank of gas and all required fluids in your truck. I do not believe it includes the 150 lb driver allowance but I would have to double check that as I don't remember for sure, there was a pdf posted on this forum explaining payload and how ford arrives at its number. Long story short, weigh your truck loaded and ready for camping, including all passengers in the truck and a full tank of gas but without the trailer. Subtract this number from your gvwr and that is your max trailer pin/hitch weight. After going through the calculations for my new fifth wheel I found the most limiting factors on my truck to be my payload and rawr. Take a look at the thread called "fifth week towing I'm doing it." Lots of good info in there and the op found rawr and payload to be the most restrictive factor just as I did. Slightly different perhaps because a fifth wheel requires more payload but I think you will find similar results.

The calculations you provided are very clear and can be useful though, imo you should always check all of your weights to determine what will be your limiting factor. Go get everything weighed would be my main point. Its easy and cheap to do and then you know for sure what your limits are.

Now back to the pictures!
Check this out... it seems to indicate the 150 lb driver is absent from the weightings, which confirms your statement. I always thought the driver was included.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...Payload_SB.pdf
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:14 AM
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anyone have any experience with Star Craft Star Lite series travel trailers? Eyeballing a 2000 25ft star lite.
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They are owned/made by Jayco, good quality from what I've seen.

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