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Where do you see washer/dryer hook up in the Reflection? I don't think you understood what DMatt13 was saying in his post. That is a lot of weight going to be on the tongue of that trailer.
That is the identical floor plan of the 260RD I just bought. https://www.granddesignrv.com/showro...oorplans/260rd
The w/d hook up is in the bedroom closet on other side of shower wall. I don't think any of their 150 Series 5th wheels offer the w/d hook up. If you look up the 287RLTS and look at the floor plan you will see the fine print for the w/d. Actually it will be a combination w/d. The w/d isn't at the front of the trailer. I understand what he is saying about the tongue weight and am in the process of researching all numbers. I put a refundable deposit down and have til Friday to decide. Thanks.
That hitch weight is only 10%, IE a tail wagging biotch. @ 13%, where trailer weight distribution works better with the F150, you are looking at 939 pounds empty Add in the hitch and you are already over 1000 pounds on the hitch and you haven't even put a pot or pan in it.
So I looked that one up, and I see the W/D hookup is in the bath, ahead of the axles, so that weight is applied to the ball. The GVWR is 9495, cargo of 2270, so lets say you put in 1500 pounds of clothes, gear, food, and water. That brings the ready to travel weight up to 8724 pounds, and at 13% (10-15% is the range, so split the difference) there is now 1134 pounds +100 hitch for 1234 pounds on the ball. With Max Tow you have 86 pounds to spare, so OK there, but do you have the payload? You can easily hit 600 pounds in the truck before even dropping the hitch and trailer on, so you would need at least 1900 pounds payload.
So if you have it, you are good to go, HOWEVER, and I am not kidding, Go weigh the truck!!!!! Load up whoever will be with you, think about what ever you may be carrying in the cab and bed, fill the tank full, and hit a scale. Subtract that from your GVWR and if you have more than 1240 pounds left, then you can safely tow that trailer. Exceed it and you can become a liability issue if something goes wrong.
I would also highly recommend a Blue Ox for that setup, or for any setup over 5000 pounds with the F150.
Great advice above. I would find out where the tanks are on that trailer. My fresh water is behind the axles and grey/black over them, so it's balanced well. If your tanks are forward of the axles, any water/waste weight goes on the hitch as well.
I have the Blue Ox Sway Pro w/1000# bars for our Lance, which weighs in at 6788#. Handles the load great, but it's heavy. My 2018 FX4 has a payload of 1707lbs. Hitch weight on the trailer is 868lbs with batteries and 3 propane tanks.
Good luck on water ever you decide.
On a side note, that trailer, if all tanks are filled, holds roughly, are you sitting down?, 1512 pounds of water! The grey tank alone is 86 gallons. Looking at the layout, all tanks appear to be centered over the axles. One more note on that trailer, there are sevearl options that add weight and are not included in the UVW listed as that is just an average weight, they probably do not weigh each and every trailer before it leaves the plant, some do, most don't, and based on note #1, it appears they don't.
That hitch weight is only 10%, IE a tail wagging biotch. @ 13%, where trailer weight distribution works better with the F150, you are looking at 939 pounds empty Add in the hitch and you are already over 1000 pounds on the hitch and you haven't even put a pot or pan in it.
So I looked that one up, and I see the W/D hookup is in the bath, ahead of the axles, so that weight is applied to the ball. The GVWR is 9495, cargo of 2270, so lets say you put in 1500 pounds of clothes, gear, food, and water. That brings the ready to travel weight up to 8724 pounds, and at 13% (10-15% is the range, so split the difference) there is now 1134 pounds +100 hitch for 1234 pounds on the ball. With Max Tow you have 86 pounds to spare, so OK there, but do you have the payload? You can easily hit 600 pounds in the truck before even dropping the hitch and trailer on, so you would need at least 1900 pounds payload.
So if you have it, you are good to go, HOWEVER, and I am not kidding, Go weigh the truck!!!!! Load up whoever will be with you, think about what ever you may be carrying in the cab and bed, fill the tank full, and hit a scale. Subtract that from your GVWR and if you have more than 1240 pounds left, then you can safely tow that trailer. Exceed it and you can become a liability issue if something goes wrong.
I would also highly recommend a Blue Ox for that setup, or for any setup over 5000 pounds with the F150.
All the numbers can be confusing, but you did a good job explaining it all. Thanks. My GVWR is 7000, GCWR is 17100 and the max payload is 2071 lbs. I am using the Equal-i-zer brand WDH and the one I have is rated up to 10,000 lbs. I looked up the Blue Ox and will give it some consideration. Looks like it might weigh less than mine and I need all the weight savings as possible. I'll be going to the scales tomorrow to get some numbers.
I've been towing for awhile but never really ran the numbers. Never had any issues, but now since I might be pushing the limit I want to make sure everything is right. I don't want to be maxed out. I always like to have a cushion. If numbers don't allow this move, then we will just have to continue using laundromats or buy a small combination w/d for what I already have. Thanks for all the info and advice already given.
You have a healthy payload, thanks to 2WD! I think you will be fine with your new trailer BUT you will certainly be pushing your max. Your max trailer weight is 10k based on your GCWR - GVWR.
Honestly, it seems like you are towing way more than the average guy and I would strongly consider a 250. IMO, once you creep up north of 7000lb you are “in the big leagues” and since it seems you travel quite often, a heavier duty truck will pay you dividends in the long run. Just my opinion.
I weighed the truck today just to get an number to start with. Weighed in right at 5800 with just me, half tank of fuel, my mobility scooter in bed with a few other items and smallish tool box. Tomorrow I will empty bed, fill tank and re-weigh. Of course the RV dealer said I'm good to go. He pointed out that the trailer I want has tongue weight of 727 lbs. That might be dry weight, but loaded I will need 1235 lb tongue weight. He also told me the equalizer hitch takes off 20%. My GVWR for the truck is 7000 and for the trailer 9495 which puts everything at 16495. My CVWR is 17100, so I am only under by 605. Not good. The wife is on her computer building F250s. Lol! We really like the trailer, but I think I am going to pass.
Thanks for all the input.
Why would you ever travel with all three tanks full?
I was thinking the same thing. At the most I might have the fresh tank full (60gal=501lb) but probably only half full. And that water would end up in grey and black tanks.
Hard to believe the camper is already a year old. These are a few pics of the rig since I had the lower part of the truck painted Caribou. Wife likes the way it matches the camper!
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