Lets see your campers being towed
10-10-2013, 06:55 PM
#2041
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That's all great. After that public service message from the payload police, Can we get back to campers now?
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10-11-2013, 06:08 AM
#2042
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I am always amazed by the number of people towing who dont understand ratings. Payload is the difference between the trucks weight and its gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR). It is NOT what you put in the bed. It is not hitch weight. It is people, dogs, luggage, hitch weight, cargo and everything else other than the truck riding on the tires.
The gross combined weight rating is the permissible weight of the loaded truck plus the weight of the loaded trailer. Now you can infact overload the truck and be under GCWR by putting too much in the front of the trailer.
Are theremargins? Yeh probably. Is it smart to intrude on them? Not in my opinion and having driven a lot of mile at 29, 000# I would not. The downside is just too expensive. Also if you are in an accident or get stopped and weighed the police do not carry a guide indicating what permissible overload is. The look at the door sticker. "But officer, the salesman said the truck would do it" doesnt do it.
The gross combined weight rating is the permissible weight of the loaded truck plus the weight of the loaded trailer. Now you can infact overload the truck and be under GCWR by putting too much in the front of the trailer.
Are theremargins? Yeh probably. Is it smart to intrude on them? Not in my opinion and having driven a lot of mile at 29, 000# I would not. The downside is just too expensive. Also if you are in an accident or get stopped and weighed the police do not carry a guide indicating what permissible overload is. The look at the door sticker. "But officer, the salesman said the truck would do it" doesnt do it.
As to my original question I simply wondered if the weight of the truck and the payload rating equaled the same number for every f150, like a Lariat and an xl for example. Obviously they start out at different weights and have different payload capacity. If you add those two numbers together is it the same every time?
10-11-2013, 07:54 AM
#2043
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As to my original question I simply wondered if the weight of the truck and the payload rating equaled the same number for every f150, like a Lariat and an xl for example. Obviously they start out at different weights and have different payload capacity. If you add those two numbers together is it the same every time?
But a long wheelbase and short wheel base, won't have the same GVWR
10-11-2013, 08:15 AM
#2044
No one here is being forced into any behavior. Every time a person encourages irresponsible behavior it needs to be revealed as irresponsible with factual information.
You extended this conversation. Without your contribution this just might have ended already.
10-11-2013, 08:18 AM
#2045
http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/payload/
Why guess when the information is easily available.
10-11-2013, 08:23 AM
#2046
Yea I know all that you chowder head, I was trying to explain the difference to the guy who thought my brakes were gonna fail cause I was a little over payload capacity without confusing him too much which is why I said for example. If you think a truck that is rated to tow 11000 pounds is gonna have brakes that will fail if your truck is 500 over payload when you know nothing about the trailer weight, which is well under the tow rating I might add, then clearly you do not have a clue. How do think I know how much I'm over if I don't know what it is? Lol! Some peoples kids I tell ya! No one cares about your weight police opinion. You know how many f150s get pulled over and weighed? Exactly zero. And furthermore if you had any reading comprehension you would know that I have a 2013 f350 Platinum now.
As to my original question I simply wondered if the weight of the truck and the payload rating equaled the same number for every f150, like a Lariat and an xl for example. Obviously they start out at different weights and have different payload capacity. If you add those two numbers together is it the same every time?
As to my original question I simply wondered if the weight of the truck and the payload rating equaled the same number for every f150, like a Lariat and an xl for example. Obviously they start out at different weights and have different payload capacity. If you add those two numbers together is it the same every time?
Every F150 of the exact same model and withy the exact same options will weight approximately the same until the driver gets into the truck, then it will most likely differ.
The table for GVWR and Payload is modestly complex and a link has been posted. Ford says it does not cover every difference in configuration.
10-11-2013, 11:04 AM
#2047
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The tables are also in the brochure. Capability varies dramatically. Superduties vary widely as well.
The other thing you should do is weigh the truck without and with the trailer.it only costs about $13.00.
The other thing you should do is weigh the truck without and with the trailer.it only costs about $13.00.
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10-11-2013, 01:33 PM
#2049
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Hmmm, what kind of person blames the person who gives out good responsible information and tries to get them to remain silent while leaving those recommending irresponsible behavior blameless?
No one here is being forced into any behavior. Every time a person encourages irresponsible behavior it needs to be revealed as irresponsible with factual information.
You extended this conversation. Without your contribution this just might have ended already.
But perhaps I Shouldve added a disclaimer, I wouldn't recommend the first time tower just Max out and go over and go full throttle, you need experience because more weight handles differently and if you think you can drive the same as you can empty you will get in trouble. I incorrectly assume people read the whole thread so I didnt provide it because it's been said 100 times. Clearly people aren't reading though, lol!
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