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Old 06-05-2018, 10:35 AM
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Tow ratings have become a d*ck measuring contest between the big three that have in my opinion really only made things terribly confusing for the consumer. The issue isn't what you can pull, it is how much weight or payload, you can carry. ..
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It's really difficult to say yes/no without having the truck, loaded trailer, and a set of scales. But it is extremely unlikely that you can tow 10k# without exceeding at least one limit.

Does the trailer have brakes? Does the truck have a controller? (is that included in the '18 Max Tow? idk)
Is the trailer set up for a WDH?
Is the trailer long enough to adjust the loading to reduce tongue weight? You might can get away with 9-10% tongue weight being that the trailer is not as likely to sway and has less surface area than a cargo or TT.
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Originally Posted by SixShooter14
It's really difficult to say yes/no without having the truck, loaded trailer, and a set of scales. But it is extremely unlikely that you can tow 10k# without exceeding at least one limit.

Does the trailer have brakes? Does the truck have a controller? (is that included in the '18 Max Tow? idk)
Is the trailer set up for a WDH?
Is the trailer long enough to adjust the loading to reduce tongue weight? You might can get away with 9-10% tongue weight being that the trailer is not as likely to sway and has less surface area than a cargo or TT.
The trailer is a 14k equipment trailer with brakes. I will be buying a hitch, just not sure which one yet, and the truck has a brake controller. My dad currently tows it with a 2006 ram 2500 hemi with absolutely no issues even without WDH. The trailer is 22ft, so the tractor can be adjusted to take some weight off of the tongue. I have no doubt that all of you know what you are talking about. I may try it and see how it goes. If it doesn't work out, then I will swap trucks for the weekend. I ordered this truck hoping that even though it is a half ton that it would be capable of doing this on occassion, guess you live and learn.
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The 2018 157" max tow claims a tow rating of 13,000 and a payload of 2,030.
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Another thing to mention is the new tires I will be putting on will be E-Rated, so that should help handle a higher payload weight.
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Another thing to mention is the new tires I will be putting on will be E-Rated, so that should help handle a higher payload weight.
yes and no.

The better tires will 'handle' the weight better. However, those tires are likely heavier than factory tires therefore reducing the payload capacity of the truck.

Those weight claims are largely irrelevant. The important numbers are the GVWR, GCWR, GAWRs, and Actual Wet truck weight.
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Originally Posted by XRSphil
The 2018 157" max tow claims a tow rating of 13,000 and a payload of 2,030.
OK don't believe me, take a drive to your local Ford dealer, look at the yellow sticker on the door jam to a similar equipped truck to what you are ordering. I will bet you a beer it's not 2030.
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Originally Posted by Jeff1024
OK don't believe me, take a drive to your local Ford dealer, look at the yellow sticker on the door jam to a similar equipped truck to what you are ordering. I will bet you a beer it's not 2030.
I wasn't saying that I don't believe you, I was just stating what the towing guide advertises.
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Originally Posted by Jeff1024
OK don't believe me, take a drive to your local Ford dealer, look at the yellow sticker on the door jam to a similar equipped truck to what you are ordering. I will bet you a beer it's not 2030.
Agreed, it will not be 2030. As others have said, that is the max payload for any truck of that configuration. That max payload is only achievable with no added options and the lowest trim level.

For example, look at the truck in my sig. I listed all options. The Max payload for my configuration is 2670. but my truck as equipped has a yellow sticker max of 2399 due to the options on the truck which make the "max payload" not achievable.

Regarding the 14K conventional pull trailer. That's a big trailer. Some states (Texas comes to mine) would pull you over for not being rated to handle the GVWR of the trailer even if it was empty. Other states will be different.

If legal in your state and you do it, your factory receiver will be rated for 1320 tongue weight so no problem there. You will want a WDH. I realize the 3/4 ton tows this trailer without it, but your 1/2 ton has comparatively weak springs in back and a lot less weight in the front to keep things straight.

Because you have Max tow, you at least get the 4050 rear GAWR which is higher than any other F150 besides the HDPP which has 4,800 rear GAWR. If you balance your load well and use a weight distributing hitch and only have you in the truck with no other stuff, you can probably make the weights work.

Very curious to see what your yellow sticker says?? The ~13,000 tow rating for the Max tow was tested with almost nothing else in the truck. That's the only way it can be done with the payload capacity you will likely have (or not have).
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Originally Posted by SixShooter14
yes and no.

The better tires will 'handle' the weight better. However, those tires are likely heavier than factory tires therefore reducing the payload capacity of the truck.

Those weight claims are largely irrelevant. The important numbers are the GVWR, GCWR, GAWRs, and Actual Wet truck weight.
Ahhhh...but are tires included in the GVWR and GAWR'S? They are on the ground...do they add weight to what the truck is carrying...therefore payload? They WILL be included in the GCWR though!


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