Originally Posted by nihilus
Saw this on the below forum. It a thread on the Ike gauntlet run of the Grand Cherokee with the 3.0
Here is a direct link to Tfl car:
Just skipped through the video but this is what I got from it:
Performance- The ecodiesel took almost 9 minutes to pull a 5700# boat up the hill. That is pretty bad. The ram guys will claim tow/haul and 3.92 will make a huge difference. We will see about that.
High temps- The truck temps got rather high. They mention a bigger hood scoop for the Ram and other stuff on the thread to.
MPG- The Cherokee did well here, but to be honest it was only 5700# and an aerodynamic boat. I will gladly take the mpg hit knowing I can tow up a hill at safe speeds. Most people will not do this towing even 1% of the miles, but when they do its nice to be able to do it.
Kind of fun reading through the forums. Post #57 is rather rich. "add 1000 lbs and you get better towing capability. sheesh!
The 2.7 ecoboost will easily beat the ram diesel in every measure - power (close), mpg, and especially price.
The ED is making some heads turn a bit given the unladen mileage, but up here- diesel is more expensive too. I was seriously thinking about one- but, as when the ecoboost came out and I had purchased my F150- I wanted it to mature a bit.
It was pretty surprising to see it rated so low. There was a REALLY detailed write up by a member on the ram forum I am on, he was really pleased with his- dragged a 9000lbs trailer for 4000 miles which included the Canadian Rockies. Wish I could find the link now.
Anyways, I am not here to defend the "little diesel that shouldn't". It's designed (IMHO) for the guys pulling their little 14' aluminum boat to the lake on weekends. Torque is one thing, but without the HP to keep the load rolling, what good is it?
3.92 won't help *that* much. A little for sure, but not enough to offset that dismal performance. The ED only have the option for a 3.21 or 3.92. Nothing in the middle. They did so much right with the new ZF box behind the engine only to shoot themselves in the foot like this. Makes no sense.
Before I get bashed too badly, Yes- I own a Ram- but I still enjoy this forum