HT Fifth wheel/or TT for 15 lariat sport 3.5 EB ?
01-03-2016, 03:08 PM
#1
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HT Fifth wheel/or TT for 15 lariat sport 3.5 EB ?
Hi All, I have been looking around for a new trailer to buy, at first I was looking at TT but have noticed a lot of 1/2 fifth wheel towable on the market. I am currently looking into a 2016 Eagle premier HT 29.5FBDS model. Specs on this FW are 8130lbs dry, tongue weight of 1600lbs and a total length of 34'4''. My truck is pretty much stock with a max tow rating of 10,200 lbs. Truck has a 2'' front level kit, and upgraded 305 55 20 Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 tires on it. I would be getting a top quality FW hitch like the Reese®16K Titan® 5th Wheel Hitch. This is my first pick. Would like to hear what people think about towing a FW on a 15 f150 with a 5/5 bed. ?
Another model I am looking at is the Eagle Premier 324BHTS TT, here are the specs on this trailer. 8480lbs dry, tongue weight 1095 lbs and total exterior length is 34'2''. Would be using a equalizer WD hitch with this set up.
Another model I am looking at is the Eagle Premier 324BHTS TT, here are the specs on this trailer. 8480lbs dry, tongue weight 1095 lbs and total exterior length is 34'2''. Would be using a equalizer WD hitch with this set up.
01-03-2016, 03:32 PM
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Grumpy Old Man
You'll be severely overloaded over the payload capacity of your truck with the smaller of those two trailers. And the bigger one is a non-starter because of wet and loaded pin weight.
The only F-150 that could tow one of those so-called half-ton towable trailers without being overloaded will have the HD Payload package. And your truck does not have that.
Your tall tires reduces your tow rating considerably. But even that reduced tow rating of maybe 9,000 pounds is not achievable without busting your payload capacity.
So in a nutshell, forgetabout a 5er and look at TTs with GVWR not more than about 6,000 pounds if you don't want to be overloaded.
Added: Trailer GVWR is 9950 with 19.7% dry pin weight. So cpunt on 20% wet and loaded pin weight. Load that 5er for normal camping trip with family and it will gross close to the 9,950 GVWR with 1,990 pin weight. Subtract 1990 from your F-150s's payload capacity and how much more weight of family and stuff can you haul in the truck without exceeding the payload capacity? Not much, if anything.
The only F-150 that could tow one of those so-called half-ton towable trailers without being overloaded will have the HD Payload package. And your truck does not have that.
Your tall tires reduces your tow rating considerably. But even that reduced tow rating of maybe 9,000 pounds is not achievable without busting your payload capacity.
So in a nutshell, forgetabout a 5er and look at TTs with GVWR not more than about 6,000 pounds if you don't want to be overloaded.
Added: Trailer GVWR is 9950 with 19.7% dry pin weight. So cpunt on 20% wet and loaded pin weight. Load that 5er for normal camping trip with family and it will gross close to the 9,950 GVWR with 1,990 pin weight. Subtract 1990 from your F-150s's payload capacity and how much more weight of family and stuff can you haul in the truck without exceeding the payload capacity? Not much, if anything.
Last edited by smokeywren; 01-03-2016 at 03:49 PM.
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01-03-2016, 03:53 PM
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Wow, thanks for the input smokeywren, Not much to choose from in regards to a good size TT that is less then 6000lbs ? We specifically bought a truck to be able to tow a bigger size TT for our family, but sounds like we are limited in options !
01-03-2016, 04:16 PM
#4
I have a 1,820 payload and found a 5'er with a dry tongue weight of 1,050 and weighing less than 6,000. After doing all of the math, I would have been several hundred pounds over my payload. Oh well . . . . .
People and pets =350
Rolltop cover = 150
Side step bars = 100
5er hitch = 250
Stuff in the truck = 100
Total = 950
Remaining Payload = 870
Figuring actual 5er weights, not dry, no way this was going to work.
People and pets =350
Rolltop cover = 150
Side step bars = 100
5er hitch = 250
Stuff in the truck = 100
Total = 950
Remaining Payload = 870
Figuring actual 5er weights, not dry, no way this was going to work.
01-04-2016, 08:43 AM
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Heh, you're not alone.
It happens all the time. It happened to me with our previous truck.
A half-ton truck's payload determines what you can tow.
If you have a high payload F150, like my SCab 4x2, then rear GAWR becomes limiting.
Tow Capacity or GCWR is rarely the limiting factor in these trucks unless you get the HD Payload option.
It happens all the time. It happened to me with our previous truck.
A half-ton truck's payload determines what you can tow.
If you have a high payload F150, like my SCab 4x2, then rear GAWR becomes limiting.
Tow Capacity or GCWR is rarely the limiting factor in these trucks unless you get the HD Payload option.
01-04-2016, 09:17 AM
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True North Strong & Free
I spent just over a year working as a service tech for a Jayco dealer and in that time only saw one 5er I would have considered for my truck, unfortunately I can't recall which model but know it wasn't a large one. In fact it was only for 2 adults....
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01-04-2016, 01:07 PM
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From Smockeywren "Added: Trailer GVWR is 9950 with 19.7% dry pin weight. So cpunt on 20% wet and loaded pin weight. Load that 5er for normal camping trip with family and it will gross close to the 9,950 GVWR with 1,990 pin weight. Subtract 1990 from your F-150s's payload capacity and how much more weight of family and stuff can you haul in the truck without exceeding the payload capacity? Not much, if anything."
I agree with above quote from Smokeywren, but the OP did not provide enough information about his truck for us to say one way or the other. Depending on the configuration of the truck he may have enough payload to handle that trailer or handle one larger then 6K.
Please do not jump to conclusion before knowing all the facts about the truck in question. Even a 2015+ Non-HD F150 configured right could handle that trailer.
Just my 2cents.
I agree with above quote from Smokeywren, but the OP did not provide enough information about his truck for us to say one way or the other. Depending on the configuration of the truck he may have enough payload to handle that trailer or handle one larger then 6K.
Please do not jump to conclusion before knowing all the facts about the truck in question. Even a 2015+ Non-HD F150 configured right could handle that trailer.
Just my 2cents.
01-04-2016, 01:19 PM
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