redranger04g

Yes, unfortunately that is on the lower end of payload capacities. Below is an example of how to calculate how much trailer you can pull based on your payload, which is usually the limiting factor.

Weight in Truck
You, your wife and twins: 400 lbs
WDH: 50 lbs
Camping gear/cooler/truck accessories/car seats: 150 lbs
Total: 600 lbs


1,399 lbs (truck payload) - 600 lbs (weight in truck) = 799 lbs

Trailer tongue weight is typically 10-15% of trailer, with 13% being a good average for travel trailers.

799 lbs / 13% = 6,145 lbs

Your maximum trailer weight is 6,145 lbs (with the above example)

Obviously, you will have to do your own calculations, but that is how you estimate your maximum trailer weight. Keep in mind, this is the maximum trailer weight, not the dry trailer weight. This weight needs to factor in propane, food/drinks, kitchen equipment, bedding, camping gear, water/sewage (unless you ALWAYS pull empty) and anything else you might need. A trailer around a 5,000 - 5,500 lbs should be doable for your truck.

jp360cj

Correct. Not only do occupants deduct from the available payload, but also the tongue weight of the trailer, the WDH (which you will need if over 500# TW, and anything that has been added to the truck (such as bedliner, heavier tires, all the suff in the glove box/console, etc). Read through the threads Ricktwuhkn linked.

Put your VIN in this website: https://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleRegSelector.do . That's Ford's site that will list all options that came on your truck.

Ricktwuhk

Shows you how much the trailer dealer lied to you and put your family at risk to make a buck.

smokeywren

Extremely misleading spec. That's the Ford tow rating. Tow rating is GCWR minus the shipping weight of the new truck plus a 150-pound driver.


Ford towing specs 101:


Don't confuse GCWR, GVWR and GAWR. They are entirely different animals, and all are important.

GCWR is the max weight your F-150 can PULL without overheating anything in the drivetrain, and without being the slow poke holding up traffic when climbing steep grades. GCWR minus the shipping weight of the truck is the factory tow rating, in your case 9,200 pounds. GCWR minus the actual weight of the wet and loaded truck is the actual tow rating. But GCWR is probably not your limiter as to how much trailer you can tow without being overloaded.

GVWR is the max weight that can be on the four tires of the truck without being overloaded. In your case, 7,200 pounds. Payload capacity is the GVWR minus the weight of the truck. The payload capacity on the yellow sticker in the door frame is the max payload you can add to the empty truck without being overloaded. Notice that word "max". It's important.


So you are confusing tow rating with GVWR. Your factory tow rating is 9,200 pounds max trailer weight, but your GVWR is 7,200 pounds max weight on the 4 tires of the pickup.

Payload capacity available for hitch weight is the GVWR minus the actual weight of the wet and loaded truck, with everybody and everything in the truck. To determine the approximate max travel trailer weight you an have without being overloaded, subtract the weight of the wet and loaded truck from the GVWR and divide the answer by 0.13 (13%). It will be a lot less than the 8,000 pounds you're thinking about. But don't cheat yourself by omitting some of the weight that will be in the truck when towing - include everybody and everything in the truck when towing. Tools, kids, pets, campfire wood, jacks and jack stands, WD hitch, everything.


GAWR is the max weight that can be on the two tires of the front (fGAWR) or rear (rGAWR) axles. GVWR is usually the limiter as to how much trailer you can tow without being overloaded, but on some of the newer F-150s like yours, rGAWR is the limiter.


Not related. Your 9,200 pounds tow rating is the max weight of a trailer you can PULL. Your 7,200 GVWR is the max the truck can weigh, including hitch weight.


No. With only 1,400 pounds payload capacity, if you load the truck very lightly you probably cannot tow a trailer that weighs more than 6,000 pounds without being overloaded. My 2012 F-150 SuperCrew Lariat with 6.5' bed and a shell and 1,566 pounds payload capacity is overloaded with my TT that grosses less than 5,000 pounds.

Your EcoBoost drivetrain is a powerhouse that can PULL a lot heavier trailer than the suspension/frame/brakes can CARRY the hitch weight of that trailer.


Max tongue weight (TW) for the hitch is on the sticker of the hitch. Yours is probably 500 pounds without a WD hitch and 1,050 pounds with a WD hitch.

Trailer specs will give you only dry hitch weight, which is a useless spec. To estimate the max wet and loaded hitch weight you trailer will probably have, multiply the GVWR of the trailer by 0.13 (13%). If your trailer specs do not include GVWR, then estimate GVWR as dry weight of the trailer plus the cargo carrying capacity (CCC) of the trailer.

To determine the actual tongue weight of your wet and loaded trailer requires weighing it. Use a tongue weight scale to weigh just the tongue. If you don't have access to a tongue weight scale, then you can determine actual tongue weight with two passes over the CAT scale. One pass with the wet and loaded trailer without the spring bars tight, and another pass without the trailer. Compute the GVW of the truck as the total weight on the two truck axles. Subtract the GVW of the truck without the trailer from the GVW of the truck with the wet and loaded trailer tied on. The answer is tongue weight.

JodyHoffmann

Ok, got trailer hitch info as follows:
max gross trlr wt (LB) with weight distributing hitch 10,500, normal weight carrying 5,000 lbs.
max tongue wt (LB) with weight distributing hitch (max tounge weight) 1,050 and normal weight carrying weight 500 lbs.
and now this TOTALLY confuses me as to my max allowable full and empty weight I can tow for travel trailer.

BarmanBean

iTrader: (1)

Stop being confused. It's simple.

Payload minus stuff/people in the truck. Divide that number by .13. That give you about what you can tow assuming average tongue weight.

So for you:

Driver, wife, 2 kids = 400lbs
Luggage and coolers = 250lbs
WDH = 100lbs
Extra "stuff" = 100lbs

1400-400-250-100-100 = 550lbs

550/.13 = 4,230lbs

That's your limit on paper, you can have a LOADED trailer weight of 4200lbs. Adjust the numbers as needed / as appropriate for how you pack. You can save weight in the truck by loading gear into the trailer instead of the truck if possible, which would remove payload weight from your truck and allow you to tow a bit more trailer.

Irish Kid

I don't understand your second paragraph, subtracting everything from payload and dividing by .13 will not equal what you can tow. GCWR-GVW(including payload will give you approximate weight of empty trailer.

Ricktwuhk

After these explanations, if you still don't understand, I would suggest that you not purchase a trailer.

charles_slc

Subtracting everything gives you the remaining payload available for the tongue weight (TW) of the trailer.

Since TW is recommended to be 10-15% of the trailer GVWR, dividing the payload remaining gives you the GVWR of the trailer you need to be looking for.

5000# trailer @ 13% TW --> 5000# * .13 = 650# TW

Now reverse the equation...I have 650# payload remaining, how much trailer can I handle?
650# / .13 = 5000#

MAX TOW ratings (ie. GCWR - GVWR) are the limit when the only thing in the truck is a skinny driver. In real life, the max payload and/or max axle weights will be your limiter.

charles_slc

Key point right here...moving 100# from the truck to the trailer lets you tow a trailer about 750# heavier.

Let assume you can put the 250# of luggage & coolers in the trailer instead of the truck..

Driver, wife, 2 kids = 400#
WDH = 100lbs
Extra "stuff" = 100#

1400-400-100-100 = 800#

800/.13 = 6159# GVWR trailer (instead of a 4230# one)