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Thank you for that information. I called the dealership and asked what the payload capacity was. They told me it was 2,070. It seems like a lot of people who tow boats don't use a WDH for some odd reason. I spoke with a lot of people today about it and 90% of them don't use one.
2070 is one of the "SALES" numbers I was talking about!!! That's the published max payload for a 3.5L EcoBoost SCREW with 145" wb. It's a BS number because it's based on the lowest model/trim level truck of that configuration with ZERO options.
Your truck doesn't have a lot of heavy options (moon roof, console, off road skid plates, etc., etc.), but I bet it still has several hundred extra lbs that will reduce your payload capacity down into the 17xx range.
You need the info from the sticker on YOUR truck for its payload capacity based on what it weighed when it came off the assembly line. That payload capacity is for the empty truck with nothing in it except for a full tank of gas.
BTW - does your truck come with an ITBC (Integrated Trailer Brake Controller)??? I know for the 2014's and prior, even if you got the standard tow package it did not necessarily come with an ITBC - maybe the 2015 model year is different, but you need to make sure your truck has one to control your trailer brakes.
As far as a lot of boat trailer towers not using a WDH, your hitch has a weight limit rating on it that requires anything heavier than 500/5000 to have a WDH. If you put more weight than that on it your exceeding the rated limits of the hitch - I'd hate to have your hitch bend or rip off the truck because you've got 800-1000 lbs of tongue weight on it while pulling a 7000-8000 lb trailer.
2070 is one of the "SALES" numbers I was talking about!!! That's the published max payload for a 3.5L EcoBoost SCREW with 145" wb. It's a BS number because it's based on the lowest model/trim level truck of that configuration with ZERO options.
Your truck doesn't have a lot of heavy options (moon roof, console, off road skid plates, etc., etc.), but I bet it still has several hundred extra lbs that will reduce your payload capacity down into the 17xx range.
You need the info from the sticker on YOUR truck for its payload capacity based on what it weighed when it came off the assembly line. That payload capacity is for the empty truck with nothing in it except for a full tank of gas.
BTW - does your truck come with an ITBC (Integrated Trailer Brake Controller)??? I know for the 2014's and prior, even if you got the standard tow package it did not necessarily come with an ITBC - maybe the 2015 model year is different, but you need to make sure your truck has one to control your trailer brakes.
As far as a lot of boat trailer towers not using a WDH, your hitch has a weight limit rating on it that requires anything heavier than 500/5000 to have a WDH. If you put more weight than that on it your exceeding the rated limits of the hitch - I'd hate to have your hitch bend or rip off the truck because you've got 800-1000 lbs of tongue weight on it while pulling a 7000-8000 lb trailer.
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I asked them what the payload was for that specific truck. They said "Give me a moment and let me run out and look for you." I guess I can't even trust them to be honest about that. Or maybe they don't even know themselves.
The trailer package doesn't come with ITBC. That's only on the max tow package.
I asked them what the payload was for that specific truck. They said "Give me a moment and let me run out and look for you." I guess I can't even trust them to be honest about that. Or maybe they don't even know themselves.
The trailer package doesn't come with ITBC. That's only on the max tow package.
Scroll down to the 3.5L EB SCrew with 145" wb - you'll see the MAX payload is 2070. That's a zero options truck. You have options that will reduce your payload capacity below that MAX "sales" number.
You will need to get an ITBC to operate your trailer's brakes. The Ford ITBC is the best TBC you can get. There are some good aftermarket ones (Tekonsha), but it doesn't "integrate" in with other stuff on your truck like the Ford one.
You can get one on eBay for around $150, then you'll need to get the truck flashed so it recognizes the ITBC, which is another about $100.
I don't mind spending $250 to get the ITBC. I've searched for weeks but was unable to find a truck with max tow package. Worst case, I'll just install it after purchasing the truck. I'll get back to you tomorrow with the real numbers after I speak with my sales guy. Hoping for the best. Thanks again for everything thus far.
Lie down under the rear bumper and look up you hitch rating limits.
I have many of the same questions as the OP. I was reading this and have learned something already. I didn't know this sticker existed. I'm pretty sure I know what it means. But just in case I took a picture. I'd appreciate if more knowing folks might explain it.
I'm looking at a RV that weighs 4900 dry and my truck with the 4.6 4x4 with 17" tires, on a 144" wheel base and is suppose to pull 6200lbs. The trailer will have a weight distribution device included. Anyone see any problems with anything?
Last edited by Celtictexan; 07-22-2015 at 10:57 PM.
Most boats are surge brakes not electric. Electric brakes and repeated submergence is not a happy combination. I have never in 30 years of towing boats seen a WDH on a boat either, including many 25 to 30 footers. Boat tounge weight is usually adjusted by positioning the boat further forward or back on the trailer. Boats are not usually as sway prone due to sitting down in the trailer and not being as top heavy.
Most boats are surge brakes not electric. Electric brakes and repeated submergence is not a happy combination. I have never in 30 years of towing boats seen a WDH on a boat either, including many 25 to 30 footers. Boat tounge weight is usually adjusted by positioning the boat further forward or back on the trailer. Boats are not usually as sway prone due to sitting down in the trailer and not being as top heavy.
I have heard this as well. I frequent a boat forum, and everyone is saying I shouldn't have to worry and that I'm overthinking it. I'd rather know I'm safe for ease of mind.
...I didn't know this sticker existed. I'm pretty sure I know what it means...I'd appreciate if more knowing folks might explain it.
I'm looking at a RV that weighs 4900 dry and my truck with the 4.6 4x4 with 17" tires, on a 144" wheel base and is suppose to pull 6200lbs. The trailer will have a weight distribution device included. Anyone see any problems with anything?
The sticker is pretty self-explanatory - like it says, if you use a WDH you're limited to a 9900 lb trailer with a max of 990 lb tongue weight. But that just the limits of the hitch, and other limits may be lower.
If there are other weight limit ratings (GCWR, max trailer weight, etc.) that are more restrictive, then the lower weight limit will apply.
You say your truck is limited to towing a max trailer weight of 6200 lbs, so that 9900 lb hitch limit is really not a restriction at all.
However, as has been mentioned in other posts, your truck's payload capacity is usually the limiting factor.
What does the sticker on your driver's side door say your payload capacity is?
If you plan to pull a TT that weighs 4900 lbs dry, it can easily weigh 6000 when wet&loaded ready to tow.
A 6000 lb TT can have a 720 tongue weight (12% of total trailer weight). With your WDH hitch mounted on the truck's hitch receiver you can have nearly 800 lbs of payload capacity used up.
If, for instance, the sticker on your truck says you have a 1300 lb payload capacity, then after the 800 lbs on your hitch, you'll have 500 lbs remaining for people and cargo in the cab and bed.
I don't know what your GCWR is, but you'd need to make sure your total rig doesn't exceed that.
Also, you'll need to go to your local CAT scales and weigh your rig to make sure your not over any axle weight limits (GAWR limits are on your door sticker).
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I have heard this as well. I frequent a boat forum, and everyone is saying I shouldn't have to worry and that I'm overthinking it. I'd rather know I'm safe for ease of mind.
Yeah - like 5.0GN tow says, with surge brakes on most boat trailers you won't need to worry about trailer brake controller. Also, I guess boat trailers allow you to adjust the tongue weight so that you probably shouldn't have any weight or sway problems.
However, I'd still be concerned with hauling an 8000 to 9000 lb trailer without a WDH - that's waaayyy over the weight limit rating of your hitch.
Yeah - like 5.0GN tow says, with surge brakes on most boat trailers you won't need to worry about trailer brake controller. Also, I guess boat trailers allow you to adjust the tongue weight so that you probably shouldn't have any weight or sway problems.
However, I'd still be concerned with hauling an 8000 to 9000 lb trailer without a WDH - that's waaayyy over the weight limit rating of your hitch.
With your current boat - hook up and go!!
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I received a picture from the dealer last night and the hitch was rated as you said. 11,000/1,000 with WDH. I'm still waiting on the driver side door sticker pictures though.
07-22-2015, 05:18 PM
I asked them what the payload was for that specific truck. They said "Give me a moment and let me run out and look for you." I guess I can't even trust them to be honest about that. Or maybe they don't even know themselves. 
