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Old 10-21-2018, 07:32 AM
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My buddy just ordered an XLT 302A. All the towing bits, no moon roof or fx4. 1670lb payload. Ouch!

I had a dealer tell me that exact truck would be 2000. I ordered a HDPP lariat instead and ended up with 2333. Iím very happy with my decision!
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Old 10-21-2018, 08:41 AM
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4X4 HDPP is in my sig. Since I drive where we get 400" a year, HAD to get 4X4.

Now if I could only get it out of the dealers shop.... 15 days so far.
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Old 10-23-2018, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BadAltitude View Post
I reply to bump this to the top. I donít have data other than what is on the web. Looking at the tow guide there are 2 big numbers I see to maximize payload in a Screw:

Avoiding 4x4 saves about 180 pounds of payload.

going with a 3.3 or 5.0 saves about 50 pounds compared to the 3.5. Going with the 3.3 NA saves an additional 70 pounds.

Minimizing options helps. Avoiding tow packages helps.

The problem with a 3.3 truck is that it probably wont have a 7000 lb GVWR so it wont be any better off.
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^^^^ There are tow limits to the 3.3. The OP has not put his question in the context of tow capacity. He has asked only about payload.
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I personally don’t think a 3.3 is worth it in any context, but obviously many do.
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I personally don’t think a 3.3 is worth it in any context, but obviously many do.
There's nothing wrong with the standard V6 engine in an F-150 when used within it's limits. It makes a great commuter car, grocery getter, soccer Mom car, and light hauler. It gets decent gas mileage for a half-ton pickup, and will last "forever" if lovingly maintained.

The biggest problem with the standard 3.3L V6 is it's not a 3.5L EcoBoost engine, which is a towing/hauling monster compared to other half-ton pickups. But the 3.3L standard V6 engine has 290 horses, and with the 3.73 axle it has enough torque for even a SuperCrew 4x4 to be rated to tow over 7,000 pounds. Max payload capacity is only 1,990 pounds, so you cannot tow a 7k trailer and haul more than about I,000 pounds payload at the same time. But it's a"half-ton" pickup, and 1,000 pounds just happens to be half of a ton.

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Originally Posted by buckslivin View Post
Hi - first, thanks for all the great info shared on this board. It has really helped in buying my first 150.

Question, I am trying to find an XLT supercrew with payload close to the 2030 payload. So far all the one Iíve seen have payloads in the 1700s.

Anychance there is is an obvious answer to how to get to 2030?

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by smokeywren View Post
There's nothing wrong with the standard V6 engine in an F-150 when used within it's limits. It makes a great commuter car, grocery getter, soccer Mom car, and light hauler. It gets decent gas mileage for a half-ton pickup, and will last "forever" if lovingly maintained.

The biggest problem with the standard 3.3L V6 is it's not a 3.5L EcoBoost engine, which is a towing/hauling monster compared to other half-ton pickups. But the 3.3L standard V6 engine has 290 horses, and with the 3.73 axle it has enough torque for even a SuperCrew 4x4 to be rated to tow over 7,000 pounds. Max payload capacity is only 1,990 pounds, so you cannot tow a 7k trailer and haul more than about I,000 pounds payload at the same time. But it's a"half-ton" pickup, and 1,000 pounds just happens to be half of a ton.
my problem with the 3.3 is that for $1000 more you can get a 2.7 ecoboost+10 speed which will get equally as good gas mileage and be far more capable. Aside from someone who is worried about reliability, I see almost 0 reason to get the 3.3.
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Originally Posted by smokeywren View Post
The biggest problem with the standard 3.3L V6 is it's not a 3.5L EcoBoost engine. Max payload capacity is only 1,990 pounds, so you cannot tow a 7k trailer and haul more than about I,000 pounds payload at the same time. But it's a"half-ton" pickup, and 1,000 pounds just happens to be half of a ton.
Smokey, did you ever order/receive the HDPP/Max tow/301A truck you configured above?

I walked around a local Ford dealer today, looking at all the payload/GVWR ratings in the door jambs. As you and other knowledgeable posters have noted, dealers don't have HDPP trucks sitting on their lots. Rather, they have a zillion XLT Screw, 3.5EB, 302A, some 4x2, many 4x4, trucks they'd love to sell to customers walking in off the street.

The average payload ratings I saw for these generic XLT F150s ranged between 1,750 to 1,850 lbs - again, as predicted on many threads. There was one Scab with the 3.3 that was rated near 2,000 lbs. I did see a 8' long bed 5.0 XL Scab, but it was locked and the sales guy was getting bored, so I didn't get to see the payload rating. Probably well past 2k lbs.

Anyway, my question is: does anyone have actual door jamb payload and GVWR numbers for the XLT HDPP/MT truck configured above in Smokey's first post on this thread?

Knowing my upper range with an HDPP equipped F150, I can determine whether to special order or go generic. That in turn will determine whether I get a 23', 25' or 26' Airstream.
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Originally Posted by snerf View Post
Smokey, did you ever order/receive the HDPP/Max tow/301A truck you configured above?

I walked around a local Ford dealer today, looking at all the payload/GVWR ratings in the door jambs. As you and other knowledgeable posters have noted, dealers don't have HDPP trucks sitting on their lots. Rather, they have a zillion XLT Screw, 3.5EB, 302A, some 4x2, many 4x4, trucks they'd love to sell to customers walking in off the street.

The average payload ratings I saw for these generic XLT F150s ranged between 1,750 to 1,850 lbs - again, as predicted on many threads. There was one Scab with the 3.3 that was rated near 2,000 lbs. I did see a 8' long bed 5.0 XL Scab, but it was locked and the sales guy was getting bored, so I didn't get to see the payload rating. Probably well past 2k lbs.

Anyway, my question is: does anyone have actual door jamb payload and GVWR numbers for the XLT HDPP/MT truck configured above in Smokey's first post on this thread?

Knowing my upper range with an HDPP equipped F150, I can determine whether to special order or go generic. That in turn will determine whether I get a 23', 25' or 26' Airstream.
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