Help configuring a SuperCrew with 2030 payload?
10-21-2018, 08:41 AM
#11
4X4 HDPP is in my sig. Since I drive where we get 400" a year, HAD to get 4X4.
Now if I could only get it out of the dealers shop.... 15 days so far.
Now if I could only get it out of the dealers shop.... 15 days so far.
10-23-2018, 12:57 PM
#12
I reply to bump this to the top. I don’t have data other than what is on the web. Looking at the tow guide there are 2 big numbers I see to maximize payload in a Screw:
Avoiding 4x4 saves about 180 pounds of payload.
going with a 3.3 or 5.0 saves about 50 pounds compared to the 3.5. Going with the 3.3 NA saves an additional 70 pounds.
Minimizing options helps. Avoiding tow packages helps.
Avoiding 4x4 saves about 180 pounds of payload.
going with a 3.3 or 5.0 saves about 50 pounds compared to the 3.5. Going with the 3.3 NA saves an additional 70 pounds.
Minimizing options helps. Avoiding tow packages helps.
10-24-2018, 09:42 AM
#13
I personally don’t think a 3.3 is worth it in any context, but obviously many do.
10-24-2018, 12:07 PM
#14
Grumpy Old Man
The biggest problem with the standard 3.3L V6 is it's not a 3.5L EcoBoost engine, which is a towing/hauling monster compared to other half-ton pickups. But the 3.3L standard V6 engine has 290 horses, and with the 3.73 axle it has enough torque for even a SuperCrew 4x4 to be rated to tow over 7,000 pounds. Max payload capacity is only 1,990 pounds, so you cannot tow a 7k trailer and haul more than about I,000 pounds payload at the same time. But it's a"half-ton" pickup, and 1,000 pounds just happens to be half of a ton.
Last edited by smokeywren; 10-24-2018 at 12:14 PM.
10-24-2018, 08:39 PM
#15
Member
Hi - first, thanks for all the great info shared on this board. It has really helped in buying my first 150.
Question, I am trying to find an XLT supercrew with payload close to the 2030 payload. So far all the one I’ve seen have payloads in the 1700s.
Anychance there is is an obvious answer to how to get to 2030?
Thanks!
Brian B
Thanks!
Brian B
Question, I am trying to find an XLT supercrew with payload close to the 2030 payload. So far all the one I’ve seen have payloads in the 1700s.
Anychance there is is an obvious answer to how to get to 2030?
Thanks!
Brian B
Thanks!
Brian B
10-24-2018, 10:01 PM
#16
There's nothing wrong with the standard V6 engine in an F-150 when used within it's limits. It makes a great commuter car, grocery getter, soccer Mom car, and light hauler. It gets decent gas mileage for a half-ton pickup, and will last "forever" if lovingly maintained.
The biggest problem with the standard 3.3L V6 is it's not a 3.5L EcoBoost engine, which is a towing/hauling monster compared to other half-ton pickups. But the 3.3L standard V6 engine has 290 horses, and with the 3.73 axle it has enough torque for even a SuperCrew 4x4 to be rated to tow over 7,000 pounds. Max payload capacity is only 1,990 pounds, so you cannot tow a 7k trailer and haul more than about I,000 pounds payload at the same time. But it's a"half-ton" pickup, and 1,000 pounds just happens to be half of a ton.
The biggest problem with the standard 3.3L V6 is it's not a 3.5L EcoBoost engine, which is a towing/hauling monster compared to other half-ton pickups. But the 3.3L standard V6 engine has 290 horses, and with the 3.73 axle it has enough torque for even a SuperCrew 4x4 to be rated to tow over 7,000 pounds. Max payload capacity is only 1,990 pounds, so you cannot tow a 7k trailer and haul more than about I,000 pounds payload at the same time. But it's a"half-ton" pickup, and 1,000 pounds just happens to be half of a ton.
02-22-2019, 04:52 PM
#17
HDPP + Max tow
The biggest problem with the standard 3.3L V6 is it's not a 3.5L EcoBoost engine. Max payload capacity is only 1,990 pounds, so you cannot tow a 7k trailer and haul more than about I,000 pounds payload at the same time. But it's a"half-ton" pickup, and 1,000 pounds just happens to be half of a ton.
I walked around a local Ford dealer today, looking at all the payload/GVWR ratings in the door jambs. As you and other knowledgeable posters have noted, dealers don't have HDPP trucks sitting on their lots. Rather, they have a zillion XLT Screw, 3.5EB, 302A, some 4x2, many 4x4, trucks they'd love to sell to customers walking in off the street.
The average payload ratings I saw for these generic XLT F150s ranged between 1,750 to 1,850 lbs - again, as predicted on many threads. There was one Scab with the 3.3 that was rated near 2,000 lbs. I did see a 8' long bed 5.0 XL Scab, but it was locked and the sales guy was getting bored, so I didn't get to see the payload rating. Probably well past 2k lbs.
Anyway, my question is: does anyone have actual door jamb payload and GVWR numbers for the XLT HDPP/MT truck configured above in Smokey's first post on this thread?
Knowing my upper range with an HDPP equipped F150, I can determine whether to special order or go generic. That in turn will determine whether I get a 23', 25' or 26' Airstream.
02-22-2019, 11:47 PM
#18
Smokey, did you ever order/receive the HDPP/Max tow/301A truck you configured above?
I walked around a local Ford dealer today, looking at all the payload/GVWR ratings in the door jambs. As you and other knowledgeable posters have noted, dealers don't have HDPP trucks sitting on their lots. Rather, they have a zillion XLT Screw, 3.5EB, 302A, some 4x2, many 4x4, trucks they'd love to sell to customers walking in off the street.
The average payload ratings I saw for these generic XLT F150s ranged between 1,750 to 1,850 lbs - again, as predicted on many threads. There was one Scab with the 3.3 that was rated near 2,000 lbs. I did see a 8' long bed 5.0 XL Scab, but it was locked and the sales guy was getting bored, so I didn't get to see the payload rating. Probably well past 2k lbs.
Anyway, my question is: does anyone have actual door jamb payload and GVWR numbers for the XLT HDPP/MT truck configured above in Smokey's first post on this thread?
Knowing my upper range with an HDPP equipped F150, I can determine whether to special order or go generic. That in turn will determine whether I get a 23', 25' or 26' Airstream.
I walked around a local Ford dealer today, looking at all the payload/GVWR ratings in the door jambs. As you and other knowledgeable posters have noted, dealers don't have HDPP trucks sitting on their lots. Rather, they have a zillion XLT Screw, 3.5EB, 302A, some 4x2, many 4x4, trucks they'd love to sell to customers walking in off the street.
The average payload ratings I saw for these generic XLT F150s ranged between 1,750 to 1,850 lbs - again, as predicted on many threads. There was one Scab with the 3.3 that was rated near 2,000 lbs. I did see a 8' long bed 5.0 XL Scab, but it was locked and the sales guy was getting bored, so I didn't get to see the payload rating. Probably well past 2k lbs.
Anyway, my question is: does anyone have actual door jamb payload and GVWR numbers for the XLT HDPP/MT truck configured above in Smokey's first post on this thread?
Knowing my upper range with an HDPP equipped F150, I can determine whether to special order or go generic. That in turn will determine whether I get a 23', 25' or 26' Airstream.
02-23-2019, 08:12 AM
#19
HDPP Payload
Awesome, thanks! What do you guess a 4x2 would be? Around 2,700?
Btw, the payload for the generic 3.5 4x2 Screw with 5.5 box was 1,825 lbs. An identical one, but with a 6.5 box, was lower @ 1,735 lbs. I guess the extra foot weighs 90 lbs? So, if you don't go with HDPP (which requires the 6.5 box), it seems it's actually better to get the shorter bed?
Btw, the payload for the generic 3.5 4x2 Screw with 5.5 box was 1,825 lbs. An identical one, but with a 6.5 box, was lower @ 1,735 lbs. I guess the extra foot weighs 90 lbs? So, if you don't go with HDPP (which requires the 6.5 box), it seems it's actually better to get the shorter bed?
Last edited by snerf; 02-23-2019 at 08:22 AM.
02-23-2019, 08:58 AM
#20
I'd definitely avoid that FX package. My neighbor has that, and he doesn't go off road nor tow anything.
I'd avoid any sports packages. There is nothing remotely sporty about these cumbersome trucks.
Avoid that sunroof.
Avoid factory running boards, or any trim above the 301 option.
I view my truck as a towing vessel, so I was after a high payload, but reasonable convenience for driving comfort, meaning skimping on features that I wouldn't appreciate.
I'd avoid any sports packages. There is nothing remotely sporty about these cumbersome trucks.
Avoid that sunroof.
Avoid factory running boards, or any trim above the 301 option.
I view my truck as a towing vessel, so I was after a high payload, but reasonable convenience for driving comfort, meaning skimping on features that I wouldn't appreciate.