Heavy duty tow package vs heavy duty payload package.
02-13-2018, 11:04 PM
#11
Grumpy Old Man
That doesn't answer the question.
Does your wet and loaded F-150 have enough UNUSED payload capacity to haul 1,000 pounds of hitch weight? To answer that question, you need to know the weight of your wet and loaded F-150, including people, pets, tools, bottle and or floor jacks, campfire wood, charcoal grill and charcoal, bed rug, camper shell or tonneau cover, and any other weight in or on the truck. Do you live in Bambi country so you have a heavy Ranch Hand front end replacement? Those puppies are heavy and quickly eat into your available payload capacity.
So with 1,000 pounds of hitch weight plus another 1,000 pounds of weight in the truck, the answer is no. Your F-150 would be overloaded over the payload capacity of your F-150 when you add 1,000 pounds of hitch weight to the other 1,000 pounds of weight in the F-150.
Does your wet and loaded F-150 have enough UNUSED payload capacity to haul 1,000 pounds of hitch weight? To answer that question, you need to know the weight of your wet and loaded F-150, including people, pets, tools, bottle and or floor jacks, campfire wood, charcoal grill and charcoal, bed rug, camper shell or tonneau cover, and any other weight in or on the truck. Do you live in Bambi country so you have a heavy Ranch Hand front end replacement? Those puppies are heavy and quickly eat into your available payload capacity.
So with 1,000 pounds of hitch weight plus another 1,000 pounds of weight in the truck, the answer is no. Your F-150 would be overloaded over the payload capacity of your F-150 when you add 1,000 pounds of hitch weight to the other 1,000 pounds of weight in the F-150.
02-14-2018, 12:13 AM
#12
Why not just get and HDDP with Max tow and be done with it! Max tow alone on a lightly optioned truck is fine for people with a light family that put minimal stuff in the truck when traveling. But if you have a 500+ pound family, haul a bicycles, a grill and firewood in the bed, have a cap with a boat or two on the roof and whatever else, you will need an HDPP if you still want to be legal when hooking up a 2 axle travel trailer.
02-14-2018, 09:49 AM
#13
Senior Member
That doesn't answer the question.
Does your wet and loaded F-150 have enough UNUSED payload capacity to haul 1,000 pounds of hitch weight? To answer that question, you need to know the weight of your wet and loaded F-150, including people, pets, tools, bottle and or floor jacks, campfire wood, charcoal grill and charcoal, bed rug, camper shell or tonneau cover, and any other weight in or on the truck. Do you live in Bambi country so you have a heavy Ranch Hand front end replacement? Those puppies are heavy and quickly eat into your available payload capacity.
So with 1,000 pounds of hitch weight plus another 1,000 pounds of weight in the truck, the answer is no. Your F-150 would be overloaded over the payload capacity of your F-150 when you add 1,000 pounds of hitch weight to the other 1,000 pounds of weight in the F-150.
Does your wet and loaded F-150 have enough UNUSED payload capacity to haul 1,000 pounds of hitch weight? To answer that question, you need to know the weight of your wet and loaded F-150, including people, pets, tools, bottle and or floor jacks, campfire wood, charcoal grill and charcoal, bed rug, camper shell or tonneau cover, and any other weight in or on the truck. Do you live in Bambi country so you have a heavy Ranch Hand front end replacement? Those puppies are heavy and quickly eat into your available payload capacity.
So with 1,000 pounds of hitch weight plus another 1,000 pounds of weight in the truck, the answer is no. Your F-150 would be overloaded over the payload capacity of your F-150 when you add 1,000 pounds of hitch weight to the other 1,000 pounds of weight in the F-150.
This wasn't even a "Can I tow it?" thread (which I am sick of) and the weight police already have the ticket book out. Some guy asks a question about equipment packages and someone ELSE is getting grilled about his truck and trailer.
02-14-2018, 10:39 AM
#14
The HDPP starts with a different frame, wheels, springs, shocks. The rear axle housing is the same on HDPP and MaxTow. The springs have a higher load rating, but a lower spring rate to make the ride softer.
02-14-2018, 05:50 PM
#16
Senior Member
It may be different now, but on my 2015 with Max Tow Pkg, I did not get the 36 gal tank. Unfortunately for me, I did not know that was an option at the time of looking/buying. Has always struck me as odd too, that Ford would put together a truck for towing, i.e. Max Tow Pkg, 3.5EB, Tow Mirrors, but not include the 36 gal. tank in all that.
02-14-2018, 06:41 PM
#17
Grumpy Old Man
It may be different now, but on my 2015 with Max Tow Pkg, I did not get the 36 gal tank. Unfortunately for me, I did not know that was an option at the time of looking/buying. Has always struck me as odd too, that Ford would put together a truck for towing, i.e. Max Tow Pkg, 3.5EB, Tow Mirrors, but not include the 36 gal. tank in all that.
2015 model year was the transition from steel body to aluminum body, and a lot of things changed. For 2014, Max Tow included the tow mirrors and trailer brake controller. The tow mirrors were no longer part of the max tow pkg for 2015, but were stand-alone option. The 36-gallon tank was std on 4x4s, but N/A on 4x2s that were not part of an order for fleet vehicles. (On my 2012 SuperCrew 4x2, it cost me over $1,000 to replace my 26-gallon tank with a 36-gallon tank from a 4x4.)
02-14-2018, 06:56 PM
#18
never mind, saw your link. Good info! Thanks!
Last edited by Jfkmk; 02-14-2018 at 08:16 PM.