Heavy Duty Payload Package
#21
It's really surprising how much payload you can get by avoiding crewcab and lots of options! I saw numerous supercab XLTs with payload over 2,000 in the dealer lot.
#22
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I see very few SuperCabs on dealer lots. When I bought mine there were a total of 2 at the dealer. They were identical except the other one was sliver. They also had 9 regular cabs and 170 SuperCrews!!
The dealer here where I live hasn't had a new Supercab or regular cab in the 5 years I've been here. They only keep about 30 new trucks on the lot. And I drive by at least twice a day.
#23
Regular Cab HDPP 141 2WD 3.5EB to Screw HDPP 157 2WD 3.5EB adds 370 lb.
#24
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#25
So I see in the payload thread that some of you actually have HDPP trucks. It seems Ford advertised them for years but never produced them. So what's different?
Are the tires LT C range or LT E range?
Are there just more helper springs?
Is the rear diff the same now or still different?
I assume you can still get a 3.5 ecoboost with electric power steering?
Is it still just a basic truck or can you add some features to it?
Finally how does it ride compared to a max tow?
Thanks
Are the tires LT C range or LT E range?
Are there just more helper springs?
Is the rear diff the same now or still different?
I assume you can still get a 3.5 ecoboost with electric power steering?
Is it still just a basic truck or can you add some features to it?
Finally how does it ride compared to a max tow?
Thanks
The HD rode a bit firmer all around; I liked it a little better on the highway. Load range C tires IIRC. Heavier springs all around and as mentioned, the frame itself is thicker. I'd buy it again if I was getting new....don't have to worry about overloading with 5 people and gear.
#26
Their are 3 different thickness frames 0.087 / 0.100 / 0.110
The Supercrew HDPP uses 0.110 and the other Supercrew 157 uses 0.100.
(Thickness is in inches)
The Supercab 164 4x4 is the one were they all use the 0.110 Frame.
Last edited by Gene K; 02-13-2017 at 11:28 PM.
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#27
This is not true. Photos of the GVWR and payload stickers from a 2015 HDPP have been posted on this site.
Ive personally seen one very late production (October) 2015 RCLB 141 XL 100A with HDPP made at Claycomo (KC).
Ive seen a couple of Supercab 164 HDPP (I suspect this is because the 4x4 and HDPP frames were the same).
All Ive seen had one thing in common. 8' Bed Trucks that were part of fleet orders.
Ive personally seen one very late production (October) 2015 RCLB 141 XL 100A with HDPP made at Claycomo (KC).
Ive seen a couple of Supercab 164 HDPP (I suspect this is because the 4x4 and HDPP frames were the same).
All Ive seen had one thing in common. 8' Bed Trucks that were part of fleet orders.
Last edited by Gene K; 02-13-2017 at 11:52 PM.
#28
According to the Ford Spec Book this is incorrect.
Their are 3 different thickness frames 0.087 / 0.100 / 0.110
The Supercrew HDPP uses 0.110 and the other Supercrew 157 uses 0.100.
(Thickness is in inches)
The Supercab 164 4x4 is the one were they all use the 0.110 Frame.
Their are 3 different thickness frames 0.087 / 0.100 / 0.110
The Supercrew HDPP uses 0.110 and the other Supercrew 157 uses 0.100.
(Thickness is in inches)
The Supercab 164 4x4 is the one were they all use the 0.110 Frame.
You are siting the new 2015 - 2017 Models.
With prices nearly the same, the '17 F250 seems a better choice over a '17 F150 HDPP truck for many reasons. The only reason for the F150 is strictly Fuel Economy.
Last edited by Mike Up; 02-15-2017 at 07:14 PM.
#29
The 2011 - 2014 Crew Cab 156" WB frames were all .150", HD Payload Package and Standard Payload Package trucks.
You are siting the new 2015 - 2017 Models.
With prices nearly the same, the '17 F250 seems a better choice over a '17 F150 HDPP truck for many reasons. The only reason for the F150 is strictly Fuel Economy.
You are siting the new 2015 - 2017 Models.
With prices nearly the same, the '17 F250 seems a better choice over a '17 F150 HDPP truck for many reasons. The only reason for the F150 is strictly Fuel Economy.
#30
Myself, I don't pull a heavy trailer or haul heavy. The 1890 lbs of payload I have is definitely needed for my 6500 lbs loaded trailer and gear but I highly doubt I'd ever go much bigger or heavier. If anything, I'd go smaller and lighter.
Last edited by Mike Up; 02-15-2017 at 11:48 PM.