Heavy Duty Payload Package
02-21-2017, 04:38 PM
#51
Senior Member
02-21-2017, 04:42 PM
#52
Senior Member
Not necessarily true, if your are from CA. If you want a HDPP 3.5EB in CA, you can get the following in CA, but not in the US:
Moonroof
*Remote Start
BLIS
Sony Stereo
*Both Center Console or 40/20/40 seating
Inflatable seat belts for rear seats
Optional smaller fuel tank
Include with CA, optional with US:
*Reverse Sensors
*110v Pwr
*=Included with base option in CA
Canadian Lariat 4x4 3.5L EB HDPP
MSRP price after discounts: $44,205 USD ($58,149 CAD)
US Lariat 4x4 3.5L EB HDPP (no remote start)
MSRP price after discounts: $52,450 USD ($68,991 CAD)
Note: I included Reverse sensor and 110v power to the US Lariat to make it closer to the Canadian model in features.
So if you are a Canadian citizen you can buy the exact same Lariat that has remote start for less than $8,000 less than a US citizen. Even being a little over an hour from the boarder, the Canadian dealers refuse to sell to you, if you are a US citizen. I would love to see FoMoCo sued over discrimination. Apparently we are stupid enough to pay this much for the truck. If you think $8,000 was a lot, you should have seen when they had the Costco incentives.
Lastly before anyone mentions tariffs, there are none as the vehicles were built in NA and we still have NAFTA. Canadian taxes can be avoided, so long as the truck is delivered to the owner in the US. Though you will still be on the hook for any applicable tax in your state of residence, when you go to register it.
Sources for prices: Ford.ca & Ford.com
Sources for currency conversion: Google.com
Moonroof
*Remote Start
BLIS
Sony Stereo
*Both Center Console or 40/20/40 seating
Inflatable seat belts for rear seats
Optional smaller fuel tank
Include with CA, optional with US:
*Reverse Sensors
*110v Pwr
*=Included with base option in CA
Canadian Lariat 4x4 3.5L EB HDPP
MSRP price after discounts: $44,205 USD ($58,149 CAD)
US Lariat 4x4 3.5L EB HDPP (no remote start)
MSRP price after discounts: $52,450 USD ($68,991 CAD)
Note: I included Reverse sensor and 110v power to the US Lariat to make it closer to the Canadian model in features.
So if you are a Canadian citizen you can buy the exact same Lariat that has remote start for less than $8,000 less than a US citizen. Even being a little over an hour from the boarder, the Canadian dealers refuse to sell to you, if you are a US citizen. I would love to see FoMoCo sued over discrimination. Apparently we are stupid enough to pay this much for the truck. If you think $8,000 was a lot, you should have seen when they had the Costco incentives.
Lastly before anyone mentions tariffs, there are none as the vehicles were built in NA and we still have NAFTA. Canadian taxes can be avoided, so long as the truck is delivered to the owner in the US. Though you will still be on the hook for any applicable tax in your state of residence, when you go to register it.
Sources for prices: Ford.ca & Ford.com
Sources for currency conversion: Google.com
Thanks for the calculations. These options change every year. The CA truck can get the engine block heater, and it is not available in all states in the USA also.
To complicate matters, you can buy a CA spec truck that has been imported back to the US like I did. Unfortunately, some of the the tech items don't work on a CA truck in the US, like the vehicle health report. Also, my CA truck didn't come with a Tire Pressure Monitoring System.
02-21-2017, 05:08 PM
#53
Senior Member
02-21-2017, 06:48 PM
#54
Thanks for the calculations. These options change every year. The CA truck can get the engine block heater, and it is not available in all states in the USA also.
To complicate matters, you can buy a CA spec truck that has been imported back to the US like I did. Unfortunately, some of the the tech items don't work on a CA truck in the US, like the vehicle health report. Also, my CA truck didn't come with a Tire Pressure Monitoring System.
To complicate matters, you can buy a CA spec truck that has been imported back to the US like I did. Unfortunately, some of the the tech items don't work on a CA truck in the US, like the vehicle health report. Also, my CA truck didn't come with a Tire Pressure Monitoring System.
02-21-2017, 07:01 PM
#55
Senior Member
I looked up the two rear ends today. The HDPP has a different differential as well as diff/axle housing. However both the axles and axle bearings are identical. Sounds pretty fishy to me. How does Ford expect the HDPP to have a 800 or so pound increased capacity when the axles and axle bearings are identical? in the previous generation HDPP at least the axles were 7 lug and I presume heavier I also know that when the ecoboost was introduced Ford strengthened the "regular" 9.75 gear set because the torque of the ecoboost was breaking them.
02-21-2017, 07:28 PM
#56
Senior Member
2014; it was transferred back in by an import company and re-issued with a US title and then sold through a US dealership. An additional sticker on the door frame certifies it meets US requirements. The truck had only 7500 miles when imported back to the US, after it was originally built in Kansas City and initially sold new in CA in February 2015. I bought it as the second private owner March 2016.
02-21-2017, 08:14 PM
#57
Senior Member
08-25-2017, 12:09 AM
#58
I have seen some XLT SuperCrew 4x4s on lots with ~2000 lbs of payload and a few members here reporting them.
Question? Wouldn't your bed weight pretty close to what my 2015 Lariat 502A's bed weighs? Meaning, you have 2,000 lbs of payload but maybe only 1500 for the RAWR where most of these trucks get overloaded quickly. I have a few hundred lbs free on my FAWR and a less optioned truck may have much more there of course.
IIRC, my RAWR had 1460 available, yet my payload on the sticker is 1530lbs.
Thanks guys and gals.
Edit: In reference to this thread, if I could some options that I like, I would have one in my driveway.
Question? Wouldn't your bed weight pretty close to what my 2015 Lariat 502A's bed weighs? Meaning, you have 2,000 lbs of payload but maybe only 1500 for the RAWR where most of these trucks get overloaded quickly. I have a few hundred lbs free on my FAWR and a less optioned truck may have much more there of course.
IIRC, my RAWR had 1460 available, yet my payload on the sticker is 1530lbs.
Thanks guys and gals.
Edit: In reference to this thread, if I could some options that I like, I would have one in my driveway.
Last edited by jcb206; 08-25-2017 at 12:12 AM.
08-25-2017, 12:36 AM
#59
Another question if the HDPP owners would chime in. My 502A SuperCrew 4x4 is about as heavy as you can get. Moonroof, powersteps, tailgate step, 36 gallon tank, FX4, Technology Package, etc.
If my payload is 1530 and my GVWR is 7000, then shouldn't the 7800 GVWR give me an increase of about 600lbs (800 but minus some extra options for the package)? Considering that you can't option out a truck like mine with the HDPP, then shouldn't the HDPP optioned trucks be more in the 2300-2500 lbs range? 2200 seams a bit low on a 5300 lb truck and a 7800 GVWR? Did you get a really heavy option or two, that I am not noticing?
Thanks again to all.
If my payload is 1530 and my GVWR is 7000, then shouldn't the 7800 GVWR give me an increase of about 600lbs (800 but minus some extra options for the package)? Considering that you can't option out a truck like mine with the HDPP, then shouldn't the HDPP optioned trucks be more in the 2300-2500 lbs range? 2200 seams a bit low on a 5300 lb truck and a 7800 GVWR? Did you get a really heavy option or two, that I am not noticing?
Thanks again to all.
08-25-2017, 01:12 PM
#60
Senior Member
https://www.frg-law.com/rv/
Common RV Accident Causes
I'm sure they're not the only lawyers that specifically look for it...just the first ones I found with a simple google search.
Common RV Accident Causes
- Runaway trailers
- Unsafe speed for conditions
- Overloading/unbalanced load
I'm sure they're not the only lawyers that specifically look for it...just the first ones I found with a simple google search.