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Have our heart set on a F150...can it do the job?

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Old 10-23-2017, 12:20 PM
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I know I'm going to get hated on for replying but I'm towing a very heavy boat every weekend with my half ton, 3.5 eco and couldn't be happier. I have been towing 30' boats ever since I've owned the truck (2 years ) and have never had issues but did take extra measures to improve towing charatrtics such as :
Custom bag set up, Full Race intercooler, 3.73 gears, weighht distribution hitch, MPT tow tune, brake controller, cross drilled rotors with upgraded pads, electric disc brakes on trailer, etc.... Best of luck !











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I doubt if the tongue weight of that boat is anywhere near the pin weight of the 5th wheels being talked about.
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Originally Posted by 77Ranger460
I doubt if the tongue weight of that boat is anywhere near the pin weight of the 5th wheels being talked about.
True. My 7500 lb boat tows nicer than my 5000 lb travel trailer.
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A boat can push the viscosity of water in a reasonable hydrodynamic efficiency. An RV (box on wheels) is a completely different aerodynamic principle. The Tongue weight of a boat/trailer is often only 4-7% of the full weight as well. Most everyone agrees that the max tow HDPP truck can pull the full weight, but it can't easily accommodate the other requirements.
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Boat vs Travel Trailer is like Apples to Oranges. Weight isn't as much the factor as wind resistance in those cases.
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Originally Posted by tcp2
A boat can push the viscosity of water in a reasonable hydrodynamic efficiency. An RV (box on wheels) is a completely different aerodynamic principle. The Tongue weight of a boat/trailer is often only 4-7% of the full weight as well. Most everyone agrees that the max tow HDPP truck can pull the full weight, but it can't easily accommodate the other requirements.

Makes sense... I was thinking tongue weight is usually 10-15% and pin weight is 10-25% . I have never pulled a camper before. Thanks for replying.. I just learned something new and will definitely not go off my assumptions when I want to try towing a camper ( my wife has been wanting to rent one for the last two years)
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Originally Posted by go-on3
I know I'm going to get hated on for replying but I'm towing a very heavy boat every weekend with my half ton, 3.5 eco and couldn't be happier. I have been towing 30' boats ever since I've owned the truck (2 years ) and have never had issues but did take extra measures to improve towing charatrtics such as :
Custom bag set up, Full Race intercooler, 3.73 gears, weighht distribution hitch, MPT tow tune, brake controller, cross drilled rotors with upgraded pads, electric disc brakes on trailer, etc.... Best of luck !

I don't see any pics of the CAT scale weight tickets to go with your boat pics.
Put those up, too. Would love to see them.

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fifth wheel? Go with a 250
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I also wanted a F150 as a daily driver because it is my only caged vehicle. So I chose a camper trailer that is within the weight range that the F150 is rated for. I can't figure how a 11-12,000 GVWR camper, especially a fifth wheel, can be attached without overloading a standard payload F150. Maybe a HDPP truck would work if you only have the standard 150 lb. driver on board.

A 7765 GVWR travel trailer camper with only 10.8% tongue weight loads my 1607 lb. payload truck to 95% of GVWR with only two people on board.

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Originally Posted by Eric Charlton Post
Smokeywren,

What would be the maximum weight 5th wheel or travel trailer you would recommend for the 2018 F150?

I'm looking at all of the comments and am feeling a bit confused and dismayed.

My 2013 Jeep Wrangler unlimited is rated to tow 3500 lbs and we currently tow our Lance 1575 all over the place without issue. The trailer fully loaded with everything we bring is at scale 3417 lbs. Even on long up hill pulls I've never had problems pulling, maintaining speed or braking. I've used a Reese WD Hitch. Now I'm worried that I've actually been grossly over weight all this time. This was our first experience with an RV and with towing. I have over 72,000 miles on my Jeep now and we started towing after we just a few thousand miles.



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First of all, a full loaded Lariat or Platinum will NOT have a tow rating of 13000 lbs. the tow rating is based on the Gross Combined weight rating(trailer+truck+cargo). The more options your truck has, the heavier it will be, and the less you can tow. A supercrew 4x4 Platinum will have a curb weight 5400-5500 lbs and will have an 18400 lb GCWR if optioned correctly. Then you gotta add your weight, wife's weight, kids, dogs, and whatever else you put in the truck. You will quickly see that a Platinum will really only be good for ~11,500 lbs on a good day.

Second: The 5th wheel towing capacity is not 13000 lbs on any F150. I believe maximum 5th wheel towing is like 11,300 and that is only if your truck has enough payload to handle the trailers pin weight.

Third: Then of course there is payload capacity(the weight you can put in/on the truck). A Platinum or Lariat F150 is going to have 1400-1600 lbs of available payload when heavily optioned. Both trailers you posted will have a pin weight higher than that so the second you hook them up your truck is over capacity, even before you get in the drivers seat. You will be so far overloaded it wont be funny.

The ONLY way it might be possible with an F150 is to get a lightly optioned XL/XLT with the heavy duty payload package, and that's strong maybe that you would still fall within specs.

You really need a gasoline F250 or Diesel F350 to be comfortably within the specs of either trailer.

What you should really do is try to educate yourself on terms like Gross Combine Weight Rating(GCWR), Gross Vehicle Weight Rating(GVWR), Gross Axle Weight Rating(GAWR), Payload capacity and how they play into the true towing capacity of the truck. You mentioned your Jeep towing a 3400 lb trailer. While it did it fine, I would venture to guess that you were over one of these capacities without even being aware because either Jeep or a salesman at the dealer told you 3500 lbs and that was it.

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