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Old 02-21-2017, 04:58 PM
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I wonder if wheels from a 99 would fit it still. I just noticed the other day that I still have a pair of aluminum rims from that old Dually.
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FYI. The SRW 350 and 250 are identical trucks, except for an extra leaf spring on the rear axle of the 350. Air bags on a 250 will achieve the same payload as the 350. My point is, if you're considering used, you might have more options with a 250 than 350. 250's are more prevalent in my area. Add airbags and you've got the same truck.
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Originally Posted by NC F150
FYI. The SRW 350 and 250 are identical trucks, except for an extra leaf spring on the rear axle of the 350. Air bags on a 250 will achieve the same payload as the 350. My point is, if you're considering used, you might have more options with a 250 than 350. 250's are more prevalent in my area. Add airbags and you've got the same truck.
Well not legally anyway....
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You can beef up the springs on an F150 to match an F250, and increase the springs on an F250 to match an F350, but that darn legal sticker on the door jamb still limits how much you can tow. Nebraska has cameras by the scales on the Interstate, and I saw them flag an F250 with a fifth wheel trailer that was running in front of me. There is a sign board just before the entrance to the scale and it stated the truck and its plate to pull in.

Don't know why, if someone watching suspected, or the road plates detected it was too heavy, or what, but I was a bit surprised to see that.
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Originally Posted by acdii
You can beef up the springs on an F150 to match an F250, and increase the springs on an F250 to match an F350, but that darn legal sticker on the door jamb still limits how much you can tow. Nebraska has cameras by the scales on the Interstate, and I saw them flag an F250 with a fifth wheel trailer that was running in front of me. There is a sign board just before the entrance to the scale and it stated the truck and its plate to pull in.

Don't know why, if someone watching suspected, or the road plates detected it was too heavy, or what, but I was a bit surprised to see that.
While you are correct that the door sticker won't reflect the increased payload. Adding leaf springs to the rear of an F150 to turn it into a F250 really isn't a fair comparison or in the same ball park. A 250 & 350, has the same frame, axles, bearings, everything. Only reasons f350 can carry more is the extra rear leaf spring the factory adds.
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Originally Posted by NC F150
While you are correct that the door sticker won't reflect the increased payload. Adding leaf springs to the rear of an F150 to turn it into a F250 really isn't a fair comparison or in the same ball park. A 250 & 350, has the same frame, axles, bearings, everything. Only reasons f350 can carry more is the extra rear leaf spring the factory adds.
You're right, but it really is the same thing in terms of the law. You can't just change the payload by adding airbags. If he is fine with being legally overloaded, by all means, but he needs to know that his setup could get him in trouble.
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Originally Posted by steeltown
You're right, but it really is the same thing in terms of the law. You can't just change the payload by adding airbags. If he is fine with being legally overloaded, by all means, but he needs to know that his setup could get him in trouble.
This is exactly what I was going for. Regardless of what you do to your truck, unless you recertify it, you are legally bound by that yellow tag on the door or pillar. If you don't believe that the chicken coops in Nebraska WONT have you come in and scale, think again, do a little goggling if you don't believe me, but it can and will happen if they suspect you are overweight and they are good at detecting this.
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I will second that advice. I tow large horse trailers but seriously the 350s dont ride much if any different than the 250s, fuel mileage wont be different either. I purchased a 16 XL with power, windows and doors, diesel, cruise, cloth seats, crew cab, 4x4 with auto hubs, DRW, forged aluminum wheel option and appearance package, and tow package including factory brake controller, for 44900 brand new before tax.


I added a Kenwood aftermarket touch screen stereo with features very similar to Sync, but with two back up cameras, on bumper level and one at 3rd brake light level to see the GN hitch. It also monitors all kinds of functions on the engine, from EGT, to turbo psi, to oil temp and intake air temp etc. I also added spray in bedliner and folding tonneau cover, 125k ESP. It still came out less than the cost of many of the 150s.
Wow a 250 gasser scab 6.75 box xl similarly equipped is more than that here.
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The All American Quarter Horse Congress is the place to shop new trucks. Multiple dealers from every manufacturer with literally hundreds of trucks to choose from all in one place and able to pit them against each other for the best deal within minutes. It runs the whole month of October in Columbus OH every year.
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Originally Posted by acdii
This is exactly what I was going for. Regardless of what you do to your truck, unless you recertify it, you are legally bound by that yellow tag on the door or pillar. If you don't believe that the chicken coops in Nebraska WONT have you come in and scale, think again, do a little goggling if you don't believe me, but it can and will happen if they suspect you are overweight and they are good at detecting this.
There is a current thread running on the Forrest River Forum about this. RVer who is also a cop is talking about pulling people over and verifying weight - and yes he pulls over and checks non-commercial rigs. This is more likely to occur if your rig "doesn't look right".

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Hard to say. Your tow vehicle was overloaded with the 7,300 pound TT, and it was severely overloaded with the 8,500+ TT. So it could have been the difference in the severity of the overloading, or maybe it was the setup of your WD hitch that caused the problem.
The WD hitch can make a big difference in the "feel" of the trailer. Don't even think about towing a 9,000-pound TT with a cheap hitch. Insist on at least an Equal-I-Zer or Blue Ox SwayPro or Reese Strait-Line. Or even better is a ProPride, but the ProPride costs more than twice as much as the Blue Ox. I use a ProPride on my TT and a Strait-Line on my cargo trailer and never have any white-knuckle moments. (We retired the 5er a few years ago.)
Also on another forum, and I mention this in another thread here, ProPride and Hensley effectively LOWER your tongue weight. Hitch lengthens the rig. As a result you get more mechanical advantage reducing tongue weight and adding the weight to the TT axle(s). So the OP may well be able to make his DW happy with the bigger trailer and keep his current truck by changing his hitch - a lot less $. Just make sure you are under all the weight limits.

FWIW, there is a thread on the Grand Design owners forum of folks who have experience with both conventional and the Hensley / PP hitches.




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