Originally Posted by Axles of Evil

Just a friendly comment, if you are looking at the paper numbers, it looks bad, and assumptions can be made that these motors....well, suck bad.

In fact, owning the 3.0L Diesel, due to the torque at lower rpm, we dont need to give it a lot of pedal to get it going, it pulls like a freight train with not much effort, which is nice and less stressful than a foot load of 3.5EB at 5,000 rpm. Nothing wrong with that at all.

But I did rent a 3.3L gas engined XLT from National a few weeks back, and I thought....this was gonna be a dog. But it really surprised me, it pulled strong, and ran well with great gas milage. I could see owning one of those 3.3L and not look back.

All in all, I would urge peeps to give in and actually experience these two engines before you make the popular choice of the 2.7 or 3.5 which are awesome motors and deserve credit for sure. If you havent driven the diesel, I would recommend it. It is a different animal altogether.

P,S. I really like diesel motors, and only bought mine due to wanting that diesel. I did not buy it for any other reason at all. Its a pavement princess, I know that...and it wouldnt pull the skin of a rice pudding as far as towing...but it is a technical marvel, and I really enjoy it emotionally if that makes sense.

Also...just ordered one of the last Ford Flex...a 2019...3,5EB AWD....so as you can see, not hating the 3.5EB.

Thanks all.

Originally Posted by chimmike

yep, we've had this conversation before in other threads here. People look at the 'peak power' numbers without actually seeing where the meat of the power is. The 3.3 needs to rev. It does not make substantial torque down low. Even if it makes better power than the 5.4 in terms of peak numbers, it doesn't have near the meat of powerband that the v8 does, so comparisons don't work.