Food for thought on GVWR/GAWR/Payload
12-19-2015, 10:33 PM
#31
If they rated the 150s for what they are mechanically and physically capable of actually handling, what incentive would anyone have to buy an F250?
Just a thought....
Just a thought....
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ragerjr (12-21-2015)
12-21-2015, 08:58 AM
#32
That might be true for earlier generations, but the 2015 and 2016 have a heavier frame in the HD Payload than the standard 157" truck. That is the holdup that made few '15 HD payload trucks and is making them late availability for 2016. While the frame dimensions are the same, the thickness of the steel from which they are made thicker. As a result, no amount of upgrades will make a standard truck a Heavy Duty Payload capable truck.
Does anyone know what HPP stands for?
12-21-2015, 09:01 AM
#33
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You are correct there is a .01 inches difference between the HD and HPP frame versions. Side Rail sections are 9.06x3.58x.1(HD) and 9.06x3.58x.11(HPP). The section modules are also different in the 2015 5.73(HD)/6.28(HPP) Cu. In. These #s are for the 2015 157" Crew Cab 4x4. This information comes from the 2015 F150 Source Book dated Oct 2015 from https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...tes_010815.pdf page 84.
Does anyone know what HPP stands for?
Does anyone know what HPP stands for?
HD - Max Tow
HPP - Payload Package
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ragerjr (12-21-2015)
12-21-2015, 09:01 AM
#34
Very true. If you put a diesel in a F250 then the F150 Payload sometimes is larger due to the weight of the engine. I have played with the #s many times on the Ford Build site to figure out if it is worth it to me to go up in size of my truck. So far I have come to the conclusion if I do go up it will be to a F350 not a F250.
12-30-2015, 09:05 AM
#36
That might be true for earlier generations, but the 2015 and 2016 have a heavier frame in the HD Payload than the standard 157" truck. That is the holdup that made few '15 HD payload trucks and is making them late availability for 2016. While the frame dimensions are the same, the thickness of the steel from which they are made thicker. As a result, no amount of upgrades will make a standard truck a Heavy Duty Payload capable truck.
So if the frames on this generation are stronger than the previous generation then a non hd payload truck maybe as strong as a previous generation hd pay load truck was. As said I believe that Ford doesn't want to hurt SD sales or have you hauling or towing more than they feel that that light of a truck can handle
12-30-2015, 07:50 PM
#37
Senior Member
Ford also stated that for the '15 model year "Ford Motor Company used more high strength steel, which allows the company to use less material in the chassis while making that frame even stronger than the previous generation."
So if the frames on this generation are stronger than the previous generation then a non hd payload truck maybe as strong as a previous generation hd pay load truck was. As said I believe that Ford doesn't want to hurt SD sales or have you hauling or towing more than they feel that that light of a truck can handle
So if the frames on this generation are stronger than the previous generation then a non hd payload truck maybe as strong as a previous generation hd pay load truck was. As said I believe that Ford doesn't want to hurt SD sales or have you hauling or towing more than they feel that that light of a truck can handle
From what I could tell, the frame rails are taller but not as wide as the previous generation...there is also one additional crossmember.