First truck with a GN & had to share
01-01-2018, 01:42 PM
#12
Can you please do a build thread on your "house on wheels". My cousin has entertained building one and I might in the future as well. Could be very educational!
01-02-2018, 04:18 PM
#13
You definitely can tow more off the hitch BUT the ride wont be as smooth as it will be with a .... wait for it ... GN. Yes, you can't haul as much BUT I'll still be under payload with it. I'll just put it out there what Im doing just for *****s & giggles. Im building a house on wheels and the main reason for the GN was for 1) better driveability & 2) more floor space (with the GN deck)
I called it "GN" sin an attempt to get to the point quicker by saving time. Right or wrong,I have seen "GN" many times on CL (craigslist) & elsewhere (though I cannot recall exactly where). & there is a vast difference between me & the "younger generation" - those who cant make a phone call, meet you face to face, and dang near walk in to traffic because they're too busy texting on their cell phones they're glued to 18 hours a day.
That probably sounded all "mean" but I had to make it clear.
I called it "GN" sin an attempt to get to the point quicker by saving time. Right or wrong,I have seen "GN" many times on CL (craigslist) & elsewhere (though I cannot recall exactly where). & there is a vast difference between me & the "younger generation" - those who cant make a phone call, meet you face to face, and dang near walk in to traffic because they're too busy texting on their cell phones they're glued to 18 hours a day.
That probably sounded all "mean" but I had to make it clear.
I still havent seen a truck on a lot with the hitch rated for the 13000+ lbs.
01-07-2018, 02:50 PM
#14
Here is the truck and then I found a 16+7ft gooseneck for $1200, just needs new fenders. Will work on this build from now til September
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01-07-2018, 02:52 PM
#15
I have an unrelated question. Since you have the mythical unicorn 18400 GCWR truck, what is does the sticker on your conventional factory hitch say for tongue weight and trailer weight? What are the options you got on your truck to get it to 18400 lb GCWR, because as far as I can tell it requires Max-Tow and 20" wheels and possibly some other options.
I still havent seen a truck on a lot with the hitch rated for the 13000+ lbs.
I still havent seen a truck on a lot with the hitch rated for the 13000+ lbs.
20'' wheels
Max tow package
After looking again, it appears as if it's either the 16,200 or 18,400 GCWR. What do you all think? Pic.
Last edited by user 83720; 01-07-2018 at 03:02 PM.
01-07-2018, 03:29 PM
#16
Grumpy Old Man
That 13,000 and 13,200 number is the tow rating of the truck, not the max trailer weight the hitch can support. What is the hitch rating? And note footnote #4. those tow ratings of 13k+ require what some are calling a unicorn - the heavy duty payload package with the 3.5L EcoBoost engine. Unicorn because they are so rare.
Real world tongue weight of a tandem-axle travel trailer is 12% to 14% of gross trailer weight, and average is 13%. So in order to tow a 13k TT without overloading the hitch, the hitch would have to be rated to tow a max trailer tongue weight of 1,690 pounds. The OEM receiver on the F-150 is not rated to tow anywhere near 1,690 pounds tongue weight - with or without max tow and with or without a WD hitch.
But that's neither here nor there. Ford doesn't produce an F-150 that when loaded for an RV trip can tow a 13k travel trailer without exceeding the GVWR (and payload capacity) of the F-150.
Real world tongue weight of a tandem-axle travel trailer is 12% to 14% of gross trailer weight, and average is 13%. So in order to tow a 13k TT without overloading the hitch, the hitch would have to be rated to tow a max trailer tongue weight of 1,690 pounds. The OEM receiver on the F-150 is not rated to tow anywhere near 1,690 pounds tongue weight - with or without max tow and with or without a WD hitch.
But that's neither here nor there. Ford doesn't produce an F-150 that when loaded for an RV trip can tow a 13k travel trailer without exceeding the GVWR (and payload capacity) of the F-150.
Last edited by smokeywren; 01-07-2018 at 03:40 PM.
01-07-2018, 03:46 PM
#17
I know that isn't the max rating of the hitch but here's what Ive got
So it says 1,320 and if the average is 13% tongue weight then we have a max trailer weight of 10,153 lbs IF it is with a WDH. It's not the 13,200 listed on the PDF but still more than competitors.
So it says 1,320 and if the average is 13% tongue weight then we have a max trailer weight of 10,153 lbs IF it is with a WDH. It's not the 13,200 listed on the PDF but still more than competitors.
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01-09-2018, 09:56 AM
#18
Senior Member
Friesbruh, when you get time would you post pictures of your door stickers for us.?
01-09-2018, 01:13 PM
#19
Max tow package works if you have 1 or 2 people and minimal stuff in the truck. For a family with kids, bikes, kayaks or whatever else, the heavy duty payload package will actually allow you to tow more without going over GVWR or RAWR.
01-09-2018, 01:25 PM
#20
Grumpy Old Man
Right. My eyesight has deteriorated so much that I cannot accurately read the footnote numbers on the screen. I thought it said HDPP required, but it actually said max tow required.
