f150 towing vs 3/4 ton
04-09-2019, 09:04 PM
#31
I bet the superduty tows like a dream, and if I had $12.5k extra on the margin, I wouldn't mind a big ole V8 with a bad attitude. My 2.7 ecoboost sounds like an angry lawnmower.
04-09-2019, 09:08 PM
#32
We're pretty off-topic now. Has OP actually given us an estimate of the wet weight of the trailer, and an estimate of the extra cargo he wants to carry in the truck while towing the wet trailer?
04-10-2019, 01:04 AM
#33
Senior Member
I bet that hurt. I bought an ecoboost knowing that replacing a turbo might take away a bunch of the MPG-induced savings. What sold me is that MPG-induced savings are basically guaranteed to happen while turbo failure is certainly not guaranteed. Seemed like the prudent choice for my use-case, at-least.
We're pretty off-topic now. Has OP actually given us an estimate of the wet weight of the trailer, and an estimate of the extra cargo he wants to carry in the truck while towing the wet trailer?
We're pretty off-topic now. Has OP actually given us an estimate of the wet weight of the trailer, and an estimate of the extra cargo he wants to carry in the truck while towing the wet trailer?
My lesson learned on the turbo failure was to steer away from first year production on motors, transmissions, etc. And avoid being a manufacturer's test driver. I speak from my experience and for the 1 EcoBoost I had a major issue with, I can name 10 (including family members) with '13 and newer EcoBoosts that have performed flawlessly. They are good pulling machines for sure.
04-12-2019, 11:37 AM
#34
It really comes down to the case use of your truck. The 3.5 Eco F-150 and 6.2L V8 F-250 have different case uses. If you want a daily driver that is comfy, gets better mpg, and tow only occasionally the 150 is fine. The F-150 is esp ok if you trade in every few years. If you want low maintenance, maximum longevity, more comfortable towing the 3/4 ton will provide better. The SD 250 is built for the long haul/ lower operational costs. The 150 is more of a DD.
I daily drive a 13’ F-150 Platinum with the 6.2L. I’m averaging 14.6 MPG at the moment with mixed. With more highway I average closer to 16 mpg combined. Gas mileage isn’t a big concern for me as it’s only one point on the list.
I daily drive a 13’ F-150 Platinum with the 6.2L. I’m averaging 14.6 MPG at the moment with mixed. With more highway I average closer to 16 mpg combined. Gas mileage isn’t a big concern for me as it’s only one point on the list.
The superduty is designed for a harder use case and higher duty cycle than the F150 (their own words). Having said that, I wouldn't expect an F150 to only last a few years and needed to be traded in. Just like any modern consumer grade vehicle out there, you should expect for the vehicle to last to that 150K mile range before having any sort of end-of-life component failure.
Last edited by markag; 04-12-2019 at 11:41 AM.
04-12-2019, 12:03 PM
#35
A super duty has lower operational costs? I’d be curious for the details, because my intuition is that it’s the opposite.
Last edited by kehyler; 04-12-2019 at 12:37 PM.
04-12-2019, 12:31 PM
#36
Ford happily charged $6000 to replace my turbos and exhaust manifolds at 71k miles on my EcoBoost. They couldn't explain why the wastegates failed causing pressure and heat to build and blow the manifolds to leak. Thank God the extended warranty covered it. According to the service manager it was a "doozy" of a problem.
My 2018 F150 3.5l HDPP has been flawless in 30k miles. Ford made a lot of improvements to the Gen2 motor. I tow up to 9000 lb and load it to 90% of max ratings for payload and rear axle fairly often. It's a great tow vehicle. FWIW, I also got an extended warranty with this new truck, one I've not yet had to use.
I was on fence with F250/F150 HDPP decision too, but F150 HDPP was right tool for the job I do.
Mike
04-12-2019, 12:43 PM
#37
Just FYI... I listen to the truck show podcast frequently on my daily commute. I caught an older episode where the Ford program manager for the diesel engines stated that the designed life targets for an F150 are 10 years / 150K miles and a superduty is 10 years / 250K miles.
The superduty is designed for a harder use case and higher duty cycle than the F150 (their own words). Having said that, I wouldn't expect an F150 to only last a few years and needed to be traded in. Just like any modern consumer grade vehicle out there, you should expect for the vehicle to last to that 150K mile range before having any sort of end-of-life component failure.
The superduty is designed for a harder use case and higher duty cycle than the F150 (their own words). Having said that, I wouldn't expect an F150 to only last a few years and needed to be traded in. Just like any modern consumer grade vehicle out there, you should expect for the vehicle to last to that 150K mile range before having any sort of end-of-life component failure.