yokev

You gotta subtract all weight in the truck(i.e., YOU, your passengers, gear, fuel etc..) from its rating before you figure your load/trailer, and you never wanna tow at your vehicle's max
The rule of thumb is to not exceed 80%
As someone already pointed out, this guy needs at least a 3/4 ton.
As far as fuel mileage is concerned, I know at least the Duramax tends to average 20mpg driving around empty, and even with a decent amount of weight in it.
The Ford and Dodge (3/4 ton) diesels may get similar mileage, I don't know. I have no experience with either

kehyler

OP, there are a few F-150s that will be within spec for that trailer but not many. You'll have to be careful to find one as they aren't the norm. Very lightly optioned XLT supercrew 4x4 with HDPP and Max tow should be within spec, but you'll have to check it out for yourself of course.

Jeff1024

Totally agree with this, but man towing that much weight 2000 miles a year? I think those miles would be much more enjoyable in an F250.

Even an HDPP F150 is going to be maxed out with that much pin weight. You are going to have to think about everything you put in the truck and maybe even limit the number of people that can ride along in the cab. Why not just buy a Gas F250 enjoy the extra payload and added stability the heavier F250 offers?

This is one of those buy a truck for what you need not what you want situations. Want the nice ride and relatively good mpg of the F150 but really NEED the extra towing capacity and stability of the F250.

kehyler

I considered that, but OP mentioned "rest of the time need fuel economy and ride" which will not be well fulfilled by the superduty.

Jeff1024

Get it and wasn't really directed to you more the OP. You may want the nice ride and MPG of the F150 but he NEEDS the cargo capacity of the 3/4 ton.

Plus is the 6.2 gas really that much worse MPG wise as compared to the ecoBOOST. I am seeing around 16 - 17mpg in my 3.5L mostly highway driving.

5.0GN tow

He needs a 250 gas or if he wants diesel then a 350. My 350 diesel gets about 12 to 13 around town, my 2013 150 5.0 4x4 got about 14 not much difference there and on the highway both got about 18.

pilotpip

Towing/hauling, probably not. Daily driving, definitely. My 13 3.5 got about 16mpg mostly highway. My 18 gets 19+. With a 6.2, you'll be lucky to get 14.

That said, if I had a small car to drive, I'd have a gas 250 in my driveway instead of a 150.

acdii

Class 8 drops 60% of the trailers load on the 5th wheel, 40% on the tandems in the rear. Two completely different types of vehicles, cannot compare them to a pickup truck.

Wicked ace

My take on this question is you should be looking at a smaller fifth wheel if you get a 1/2 ton or get a 3/4 ton truck. I just went through all this myself in the last six months. Experience is a good teacher, I learned from my previous rig that because the numbers work dosen't mean you should. The tow vehicle was at it's limits for payload and tow capacity.
I ordered the truck in my signature last summer with the thought of getting a fifth wheel camper. Once I took delivery in the fall, I began shopping. I set reasonable expectations for limits I wanted to tow comfortably. I looked at dozens of trailers, narrowed down to three makes that I thought were of good build quality. I came back several times to look at a KZ model that was close to the numbers you gave for your trailer realizing I was pushing things. One thing you do need to be wary of are salesmen trying to tell you tow capacity, not payload is what you need to be considering.
I think in the end I made a better choice walking away from the KZ and getting a smaller and lighter Grand Design. I have a few hundred miles on the Grand Design now and happy with my choice. As my truck and camper are equipped now I have about 400# of payload in excess to my needs.

TerryD64

Another actual F-150 / 5'er owner operator checking in here.

IMO that particular trailer is too much for any F-150 HDPP, 1/2 ton (any make) and even some 3/4 ton trucks. The DRY weights of 9,500 and 1,600 pin tell the story. By the time you equip that trailer for enjoyment and load in the family and any extras you will be well over and into or past 3/4 ton territory. Please let us know the GVWR of the trailer anything past 10,500 is a no go for a 1/2 ton in my book. I have towed heavy with 1/2 tons for a long time, and I will push the ratings but I'm not crazy either.

Can an F-150 Max-tow with HDPP hook up and pull the trailer? yup, it will probably pull it nicely. BUT you have to operate in other conditions including stopping and emergency maneuvers.

Please concentrate on Trailer GVWR and estimated pin weight. Depending on the design of the 5'er with so called "Half-ton tow-ables" estimate 15-20% of Trailer's GVWR or more for pin weight; for toy haulers and conventional designs estimate 20-25% of the trailer's GVWR for pin weight. If any one tells you less than 15% on any fifth wheel is okay, just walk away, they are trying to sell you a trailer.

Fully loaded I have put 1,750 pin on mine and I was at 10,000 with a GVWR of 10,200. Wife, the dog and I along with a generator, some firewood and some tools in the truck and I was at max numbers across the board. We drove 3 1/2 hrs Taking I-25, I-70 and the Ike. It was not a white knuckle or terror drive for me personally. The truck handled just fine even with semis passing and crosswinds on I-25. That being said, I do have to pay attention to my driving and towing. I do expect some push from the bow wave of an 80,000 lb, 70 ft long semi passing me at close to 80 MPH when I'm going 65. Heavy cross winds above 30 MPH can be an issue with any trailer, pay attention to the circumstances and "Tow the trailer".

F-150 eco-boost with Max tow and HDPP can safely pull some of the smaller and lighter fifth wheels, you have to pay attention and it's not for everyone. My guess is that the GVWR of the trailer is 11,500 or 12,000. IMO for the most enjoyable towing experience, and a trailer that size, you should be looking at 3/4 ton gasser or 1 ton diesel SRW as a minimum.