F150 Hitch Reciever Capacity
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IIRC a WDH is required for trailers over either 3000 or 3500 lbs.
#22
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And yet, all the 2014 F150 brochures a WDH is required for MAXIMUM trailer weight ratings. So, do I only need a WDH when I reach 7500 for my truck?
Joking aside....the brochure for my truck says that WDH is recommended....NOT required for trailers over 500/5000lbs.
I also wonder sometime.....why does my bumper have the same WC/TR rating at the skookum hitch I have on my truck?
Last edited by Simnut; 01-06-2018 at 11:30 PM.
#23
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Correct. As stated over, and over again on the forum - the PAYLOAD number on the doorjamb assumes a full tank of gas only. You must subtract from it the weight of all modifications you make to the truck - floor mats, bedliner, tonneau cover, the weight of the driver and all passengers, the weight of everything loaded into the truck, and the weight of the weight distribution hitch.
"Maximum Loaded Trailer Weight assumes a towing vehicle with
any mandatory options, no cargo, tongue load of 10–15% (conventional trailer) or king pin weight of
15–25% (5th-wheel trailer) and driver only (150 pounds)"
#24
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He is talking payload, you are talking Max Trailer Weight. Payload is max GVWR less curb weight of the truck (plus all fluids). Has nothing to do with max trailer weight...really.
#25
If the truck does not have enough payload to support the max trailer tongue weight and the cargo/people in the truck, then payload gets maxed before GCWR comes into play. So, payload can reduce the trucks max GCWR or maximum tow rating. Like those fancy versions, limited, platinum, kr. Barely have the payload to support max trailer tongue weight and 2 200lb people.
#26
And yet, all the 2014 F150 brochures a WDH is required for MAXIMUM trailer weight ratings. So, do I only need a WDH when I reach 7500 for my truck?
Joking aside....the brochure for my truck says that WDH is recommended....NOT required for trailers over 500/5000lbs.
I also wonder sometime.....why does my bumper have the same WC/TR rating at the skookum hitch I have on my truck?
Joking aside....the brochure for my truck says that WDH is recommended....NOT required for trailers over 500/5000lbs.
I also wonder sometime.....why does my bumper have the same WC/TR rating at the skookum hitch I have on my truck?
#27
Back to ignorance is bliss. I used to routinely load my F250 receiver to tongue weights in excess of 1,500 pounds WC pulling 10,000 - 12,000 pound equipment trailers. The receiver was rated 500 / 5000 for WC. 14 years of that had no ill effects on the receiver or frame. A jury of PA contractors would have found that to be reasonable at that time. Maybe not anymore due to forums like this one.
Last edited by Gladehound; 01-07-2018 at 05:57 PM.
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Simnut (01-07-2018)
#28
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Ford has told me otherwise..... My hitch will take anything I put on it as long as I stay within my vehicle weight limits.....axle..payload etc. A WDH with my equipment trailer is only window dressing. For the travel trailer....a must.
Some Ford guides even say you need a WDH for tows under 500/5000 lbs. It's all about the control the vehicle has on the towed trailer. Yes, this includes keeping weight on the front end etc. I can do this by moving my tractor on the trailer.....no WDH needed. The same can't be done with a TT...therefore weight distribution is a must.
I'm a stubborn Dutchman...and when there are many inconsistencies in "statements" , stickers....and advertising...I like to find out why....how....etc. I believe I've done due diligence and feel comfortable with my findings and setup.
#29
With the inclusion of SAE j2807 more people are paying attention to the ratings more now days than before and rightfully so since it’s the drivers responsibility to know the limitations of vehicle they are driving. For what ever reason/engineering behind it manufactures set the limits and make it clear not to exceed them. Some limits maybe for just long term durability and warranty reasons, we don’t know because they don’t release test data. From a consumer point of view it’s best to educate yourself and to follow manufactures limits, it protects yourself and them as well. I’d be willing to bet if Ford set WC to 750lbs people would then push it to 1000lbs because they’ll reason an excuse of why 750 is too low just as we do now with 500.
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“I'm a stubborn Dutchman...and when there are many inconsistencies in "statements" , stickers....and advertising...I like to find out why....how....etc. I believe I've done due diligence and feel comfortable with my findings and setup.”
Yes you are stubborn and yes there are inconsistencies in documentation especially from Ford. The websites will say one thing yet the towing guide will say another which they really need to fix. Other manufactures seem much better with the consistency of documentation.
Yes you are stubborn and yes there are inconsistencies in documentation especially from Ford. The websites will say one thing yet the towing guide will say another which they really need to fix. Other manufactures seem much better with the consistency of documentation.