F150 Ecoboost 5th wheel towing
01-08-2012, 10:56 PM
#11
Yeah i no what that is, they sound bad ***, chevy advertised that on there thing on tv where it the 3500 dualy passes the big semi goig up a hill and has the brake going down the other side, I just didnt no what you met by "fit"
01-08-2012, 11:04 PM
#12
Senior Member
he meant you can put one on it
01-08-2012, 11:36 PM
#13
I Voted For Bill and Opus
Jacob's Braking systems does not yet make a Compression brake for the Powerstroke however several outfits make Exhaust brakes for them. Exhaust brakes are much easier to install. below is a link to one such outfit.
http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/r...brake-ford.htm
http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/r...brake-ford.htm
Last edited by transmaster; 01-08-2012 at 11:38 PM.
01-09-2012, 12:51 PM
#14
You don't need a exhaust brake or anythig like that, a good transmission and trailer brakes is all you really need. Just I don't think your ecoboost will pull a camper that big, you will wear the truck out in a hurry!!!! The engine deff won't last long with something thT big behind it
01-09-2012, 04:36 PM
#15
I Voted For Bill and Opus
We have 10,000 to 14,000 foot mountain passes in "my neck of the woods" If you don't know how to manage your brakes on such a descent, watch out, a diesel with a compression brake can be a life saver. When I was an Army Combat Engineer (WYARNG)I have done such descents in tactical US Army heavy tractors with a total weight of over 100,000 pounds the Jake' brakes they where equipped with was a instrumental part of my brake temperature management on such decents.
Last edited by transmaster; 01-09-2012 at 07:25 PM.
01-09-2012, 04:42 PM
#16
Administrator
According to "The Truth about Trucks", the EB can/will haul its max weight (11,300#) all day, every day. Hell, they didn't even bother with the fifth wheel in the video... IIRC it was straight hitch towing.
What say you to that, eh?
Actually, I really am curious as to why people think that this truck could not safely perform what the OP is asking? If Ford rates it at a (slightly generous, even) 11,300#, why would 9000 be a problem? Obviously they wouldnt advertise that their trucks are more capable than they are (by that much) and open themselves up to SOOOOOO many lawsuits when/if someone proves that they're nowhere near that capable.
Yes, some of it is marketing... most of it isnt. Ford/any manufacturer has too much to lose if they promote something like that and it wont consistantly deliver.
That said, I'm not an advocate of stuffing that much weight into a half ton truck, but I definitely don't think that 2000lbs+ UNDER his max towing capacity is grounds for a torching over what he decides to do with it.
This isnt the 80's/90's anymore and I think some of the older folks lose sight of that. Trucks are a TON more capable now then they ever were back then. The "seasoned" guys (who have not ACTUALLY tried it) think its ludicrous, young'uns who don't have the equipment to attempt it jump on the bandwagon of "Hell no!!!! Not with that!" and then the vicious cycle begins.
Bottom line- there's guys a HELL of a lot smarter than anyone on this forum that determine what's safe and what's the limit for vehicles... we're nobody to question it.
What say you to that, eh?
Actually, I really am curious as to why people think that this truck could not safely perform what the OP is asking? If Ford rates it at a (slightly generous, even) 11,300#, why would 9000 be a problem? Obviously they wouldnt advertise that their trucks are more capable than they are (by that much) and open themselves up to SOOOOOO many lawsuits when/if someone proves that they're nowhere near that capable.
Yes, some of it is marketing... most of it isnt. Ford/any manufacturer has too much to lose if they promote something like that and it wont consistantly deliver.
That said, I'm not an advocate of stuffing that much weight into a half ton truck, but I definitely don't think that 2000lbs+ UNDER his max towing capacity is grounds for a torching over what he decides to do with it.
This isnt the 80's/90's anymore and I think some of the older folks lose sight of that. Trucks are a TON more capable now then they ever were back then. The "seasoned" guys (who have not ACTUALLY tried it) think its ludicrous, young'uns who don't have the equipment to attempt it jump on the bandwagon of "Hell no!!!! Not with that!" and then the vicious cycle begins.
Bottom line- there's guys a HELL of a lot smarter than anyone on this forum that determine what's safe and what's the limit for vehicles... we're nobody to question it.
Last edited by Lenn; 01-09-2012 at 04:52 PM.
01-09-2012, 05:05 PM
#17
Senior Member
Originally Posted by Lenn
According to "The Truth about Trucks", the EB can/will haul its max weight (11,300#) all day, every day. Hell, they didn't even bother with the fifth wheel in the video... IIRC it was straight hitch towing.
What say you to that, eh?
Actually, I really am curious as to why people think that this truck could not safely perform what the OP is asking? If Ford rates it at a (slightly generous, even) 11,300#, why would 9000 be a problem? Obviously they wouldnt advertise that their trucks are more capable than they are (by that much) and open themselves up to SOOOOOO many lawsuits when/if someone proves that they're nowhere near that capable.
Yes, some of it is marketing... most of it isnt. Ford/any manufacturer has too much to lose if they promote something like that and it wont consistantly deliver.
That said, I'm not an advocate of stuffing that much weight into a half ton truck, but I definitely don't think that 2000lbs+ UNDER his max towing capacity is grounds for a torching over what he decides to do with it.
This isnt the 80's/90's anymore and I think some of the older folks lose sight of that. Trucks are a TON more capable now then they ever were back then. The "seasoned" guys (who have not ACTUALLY tried it) think its ludicrous, young'uns who don't have the equipment to attempt it jump on the bandwagon of "Hell no!!!! Not with that!" and then the vicious cycle begins.
Bottom line- there's guys a HELL of a lot smarter than anyone on this forum that determine what's safe and what's the limit for vehicles... we're nobody to question it.
What say you to that, eh?
Actually, I really am curious as to why people think that this truck could not safely perform what the OP is asking? If Ford rates it at a (slightly generous, even) 11,300#, why would 9000 be a problem? Obviously they wouldnt advertise that their trucks are more capable than they are (by that much) and open themselves up to SOOOOOO many lawsuits when/if someone proves that they're nowhere near that capable.
Yes, some of it is marketing... most of it isnt. Ford/any manufacturer has too much to lose if they promote something like that and it wont consistantly deliver.
That said, I'm not an advocate of stuffing that much weight into a half ton truck, but I definitely don't think that 2000lbs+ UNDER his max towing capacity is grounds for a torching over what he decides to do with it.
This isnt the 80's/90's anymore and I think some of the older folks lose sight of that. Trucks are a TON more capable now then they ever were back then. The "seasoned" guys (who have not ACTUALLY tried it) think its ludicrous, young'uns who don't have the equipment to attempt it jump on the bandwagon of "Hell no!!!! Not with that!" and then the vicious cycle begins.
Bottom line- there's guys a HELL of a lot smarter than anyone on this forum that determine what's safe and what's the limit for vehicles... we're nobody to question it.
01-09-2012, 05:10 PM
#18
Senior Member
Lenn,
Most of the issues initially brought up with towing the trailer with the EB have nothing to do with the overall weight of the trailer, it's the one ton hitch weight. 1 ton hitch weight, 1/2 ton load rating.
Most of the issues initially brought up with towing the trailer with the EB have nothing to do with the overall weight of the trailer, it's the one ton hitch weight. 1 ton hitch weight, 1/2 ton load rating.
01-09-2012, 05:46 PM
#19
If you would see my dads 3500 (1 ton) truck with his camper, idk the weight of it but it's 32 foot, it sags down a 1 ton truck, and makes it feel like your dragging a boat anchor, I no my 01 5.4 would not even look at that camper, with a load of wood my truck acts like my dads dose with the camper. I personally have not drove the ecoboost but I have rode in them my brother was looking at a ecoboost and a Chevrolet 1500 and got the 1500 after test driving both. I have drove it a cupple times And I no I wouldnt hook up to the camper with it!!!!! If you think I don't no what I'm talking about, then on, but I no what it will do to a 1 ton truck, and I would hate to see a 150 with a 32 ft camper!!!!!
01-09-2012, 05:59 PM
#20
I pull a 31' with my Eco but it weighs in at 6700 dry. I could easily add 2k in weight and the truck would still laugh at pulling it.
5th wheel and 9k is a whole other story though. Not saying that it won't do it but you should be looking at much larger truck to do that job.
Consider getting away from the 5th wheel an the high weight and the LAST thing you want to do is listen to a salesman at a trailer place. They are even further down than a car salesman. They will yes you to death and ultimately lead you and your family there.
5th wheel and 9k is a whole other story though. Not saying that it won't do it but you should be looking at much larger truck to do that job.
Consider getting away from the 5th wheel an the high weight and the LAST thing you want to do is listen to a salesman at a trailer place. They are even further down than a car salesman. They will yes you to death and ultimately lead you and your family there.