Ecoboost 5ftfwheels
#21
Senior Member
6.5 foot with that fifth wheel with MaxTow and HD payload will be fine. You should probably be sure you have an extended pin or a slider hitch. Otherwise, that should be good.
#22
Grumpy Old Man
Assuming you order your EcoBoost with both the HD payload pkg and the max tow pkg, then your GVWR will be 8,200 and your GCWR will be 17,100 pounds. The wet and loaded pickup will gross about 6,500 pounds, leaving 1,700 pounds for max hitch weight and 10,600 for max gross trailer weight.
So if your actual wet and loaded hitch weight is 1,800 pounds, and your tow vehicle weighs 6,500 pounds (including 5er hitch, passengers, tools, and a full tank of gas) before you back up to the trailer, you're going to be overloaded by 100 pounds over the GVWR of the truck.
If your wet and loaded truck weighs 6,500 pounds, add 10,245 wet and loaded trailer weight and you get 16,745, or a little under the 17,l00 GCWR.
So you can pull that trailer without exceeding the GCWR of the tow vehicle, but you cannot haul the hitch weight without slightly exceeding the GVWR of the tow vehicle.
So be certain you order your new F-150 with both the HD payload pkg and the max towing package.
I only tow this trailer twice a year and never more than 1000 miles one way,
Will the Ecoboost hold up to this much towing?
How much trouble is the fifth wheel in this short bed?
http://www.pullrite.com/superglide_4100.htm
Also will I need to airbag or use air cells with this suspension?
http://www.firestoneip.com/RideRite/index.aspx
#23
Thanks for the info Smokeywren. My max loaded weight on the RV is 9000#. I never tow it with the tanks loaded. I had it weighed with our usual stuff at a certified scale and it weighed 8040#. I have an F-250 with the Ride-Rite airbags and I don't care for them as they stiffen up the ride too much when unloaded. I'm getting the F-150 for a daily driver and want to be to haul the RV without having to take the F-250. Diesel prices suck right now! Besides my F-250 is really setup to haul my 30ft gooseneck flat bed hence why I have the air bags on it. Someone mentioned about the Roadmaster setup, I might check on that setup.
#24
Senior Member
Thanks for the info Smokeywren. My max loaded weight on the RV is 9000#. I never tow it with the tanks loaded. I had it weighed with our usual stuff at a certified scale and it weighed 8040#. I have an F-250 with the Ride-Rite airbags and I don't care for them as they stiffen up the ride too much when unloaded. I'm getting the F-150 for a daily driver and want to be to haul the RV without having to take the F-250. Diesel prices suck right now! Besides my F-250 is really setup to haul my 30ft gooseneck flat bed hence why I have the air bags on it. Someone mentioned about the Roadmaster setup, I might check on that setup.
Last edited by EcoboostKev; 12-23-2012 at 08:07 PM.
#25
EcoboostKev, I noticed you have the 6.5' bed. Do you have a fifth wheel sliding hitch in yours? If so, which one did you go with? Looking at the Superglide, but am not sure about which one I should get. The 16k looks to be right, but am not sure the slide length will be enough. The 12k has a longer slide (about 22 inches), but is about 30% higher priced. My camper has an extended pin box, but the pin still sits 3" behind the front of the camper. I think it is also the longest pin box they make.
#26
Senior Member
EcoboostKev, I noticed you have the 6.5' bed. Do you have a fifth wheel sliding hitch in yours? If so, which one did you go with? Looking at the Superglide, but am not sure about which one I should get. The 16k looks to be right, but am not sure the slide length will be enough. The 12k has a longer slide (about 22 inches), but is about 30% higher priced. My camper has an extended pin box, but the pin still sits 3" behind the front of the camper. I think it is also the longest pin box they make.
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#27
Senior Member
Measure the distance between the center of the pin and the front corner of the camper. Add 10%. If the combined distance is less than the distance between the center of the fifth wheel hitch and the back of the truck, you are good to go, otherwise you need a slider.
#29
Senior Member
I like the idea of the sidewinder, but LOTS of RV companies will void your frame warranty if you use the sidewinder. I have never heard any of them say it will definitely over leverage the frame, but all of them say the potential is there, and they are not willing to invest the R&D to prove it will or will not cause undue stress.
#30
Senior Member